[Ed. note: Although this post is too late for the Thanksgiving Day potluck, it may be an amusing and instructive read before the Hanukah/Christmas/Kwanzaa potlucks you're invited to attend next month.]
We were so lucky to attend a delightful Thanksgiving pot luck dinner yesterday, with a dozen Portland men, each of whom brought something exciting and redolent of our own food heritage and holiday upbringing. It was truly extraordinary.
Clearly, our host did a lovely job coordinating our contributions: there was no duplication and every food group was well-represented on the dinner plate.
So flawless was our holiday meal that I was very intrigued to read the WaPo’s Carolyn Hax today, where she fielded a reader’s question about what might be the next iteration of the potluck supper: the recipe-driven potluck supper.
Dear Carolyn:
A relative just informed me that I’m about to get an invitation in the mail. Along with it will be a recipe for a dish I’m supposed to bring.
I’m used to calling the host and asking what I can bring, and I always bring something. Is this a trend and I’m just behind the times? How does one respond to such a thing?
Perplexed
Badger says this amounts to getting people to cook your complex meal for you: outsourcing specific labor by invite. I say it sounds a wee bit controlling, and discounts the wonderful discussions around the table about where someone’s beet salad recipe came from, or who first whipped rutabaga with cheddar in another guest’s family. I mean, what if my assigned recipe calls for a pastry funnel? Or a madeleine slicer, or meat grinder? I don’t think even our melon ballers made the move north!
Need I purchase the required equipment, or can I borrow it from my hostess? . . .
Carolyn, for the record, addresses the form of the questioner’s response and not really the content of the inquiry:
When the invitation comes from a relative, and when the relative calls ahead to warn you, and when you pass on that opportunity to say, “I feel like I’m on the spot,” one responds, I believe, by playing along.
Sure, it’s uncouth, but who knows; the stage-managed menu might convert you. You can easily save your harrumph till next time, if there is a next time, but it’s tough to take harrumphs back.
So — what say you? How far over the ‘hostess coordination’ line do you think potluck managers can go before they are simply asking guests to cook THEIR menu? And, respecting Carolyn’s answer, what’s the best way to say at the outset “I know just what I’ll bring! No need to forward that recipe!”




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I have mixed feeling on this one, Teddy.
On the one hand, it kind of makes sense for a hostess to do some of this type of planning although I think it does work best if the hostess and guests have been through the drill together before. Although in those cases it becomes the host/hostess asking “Will you be able to make your [salad/hot dish/baked beans/whatever] for this meal?
Otherwise, it should be “this is a potluck and here’s what I know already that folks are bringing” as a possible hint of what is missing.
I agree — no one wants guests passing different versions of mashed white potatoes around the table, with nothing else on offer. There is some information missing from the inquiry, too: what relative is this? Is this a cousin who’s criticized the choices you’ve brought for years, who has now taken things well in hand? Conversely, does the reader have any recollection of returning home with barely-touched serving dishes?
I mean, if this is a bossy mother-in-law who simply wants everything perfect but has neither the time nor the inclination to prepare it all herself, I think I’d go along to get along. But if this is my peer — a sibling or cousin, or in-law of same — I think I’d nip it in the bud with a quick “not necessary! I know just what I’ll bring” and name it.
It’s not exactly asking people to bring a ten-dollar bill to pay for their supper, but it’s in the same ballpark. “I have a perfect menu planned; here’s your recipe” is simply too controlling for a good potluck outcome, which presumes some randomness, don’t you think?
That sure defeats the whole purpose IMO
As you describe, it can be a conversation starter and a great way to learn more about each other, and find new dishes to add to your own repertoire.
Did you see this one going around the internets this year?
the rest is at Awkward Family Photos.
Wow.
Just wow.
(This is becoming my all-purpose comment, after reading about “gay antics” and how we need to sit down and shut up, on my other post today. It also fits here!)
time to find other ways to celebrate the holiday, I should say.
(and I saw that, Wow.)
Marney is the too-tightly-wound sister who gets the turkey dumped on her in “Home for the Holidays.”
Fortunately Madame Karma will be as big a bitch as she is.
I’m so piteously out of touch
IMO this is one of the rudest things I’ve ever heard of. It’s okay to say “would you being a salad” but this is over the top. I, quite frankly, would decline the invitation on the spot.
The host could also say, “here are the categories of contributions we’ll need: salad, dessert, vegetable, etc. What would you like to bring?”
Of course this screws the very last person contacted, if one assumes all the “good” items have been taken.
But a good hostess/host will have lots of choices/flexibility, and it’s only when the fourth person says, “I’ll bring a green salad” that one’s allowed to say, “well, we’ve got three of those already. How about . . . ?” and be prepared to bring/make the “tough” stuff yourself, or call upon someone who’s said, “whatever you need.”
I belong to a quilting group that has a potluck once per month. Everyone brings what she wants to, and we never end up with 22 salads or 23 desserts. it just sorta works out.
But I could understand — and tolerate — a hostess who fears 22 green salads and so tries to control a bit. However, I’d NEVER go for the “you’re gonna bring . . ” MO.
Wow. I don’t own a “serving spoon” so I guess that lets me out! Maybe this family wants only very obedient rule-followers. No uppity women or men allowed.
As for the “Here’s the recipe I want you to make…” no, no. That ain’t happening.
Um, that’s *not* one happy family and, no, Marney, is *not* “Looking forward to the 28th!!”
I was surprised Carolyn only called it ‘uncouth.’ And then blamed the reader for not responding right away! I would have been in shock on the telephone, personally, and unable to respond very quickly right then and there.
So I guess it’s better if we’re all prepared, since this seems to be the next new thing in ‘entertaining’ — offering up your home for friends and family to cook to your exacting specifications!
Fun!
I think an appropriately passive-aggressive response might be, “Oh, little old me? That sounds tremendously complicated! How about if I bring some Triscuits and a Rondele spread instead?”
You’ve gotta leave ‘em laughing, or at least feeling suitably superior, with something to pass along to the next callee.
The thing to do is to only give options in categories you’ve not filled. Once the salad options are spoken for, don’t list them among the options any more. As my host from yesterday said on Facebook, “If you’re too controlling then opt out of the ‘luck’ part. Just communicate your wishes to your guests. A good hostess can be gracious & controlling without her guests even knowing.”
So there’s that.
Not just “you’re gonna bring…” but “You’re gonna make it this way, too…”
!!
Teddy,
You’d be perfect for advice giving
you get right to the nubbin of the situation
FDL should have such a page ;)
I agree: This is all about control. I can see asking people beforehand what they would like to bring, so you don’t wind up with no beverage and twenty-seven roll baskets. But this is just un-flipping-real.
Sounds like she’s getting too many people bringing half-finished dishes and needing oven/range/serving utensils. (FWIW, her requests are reasonable. I’d make them myself.)
Hell, at work our potlucks come with sign-up sheets so we don’t end up with half desserts and half chips-and-dips. (Real fun is a surprise potluck lunch. Next best is a potluck with 60 people bringing food, which means enough food for an airborne division.)
Hey Teddy, glad to hear you had a great potluck Turkey Day!
As to the question(s) you raise?
I’m no diplomat in this regards (so my advice is NOT for those seeking bipartisanship goodness), and my general reply would be:
“I’m sorry, if you want me to bring something, and I make it from scratch, you don’t get to tell me what to make or I’ll just buy it from Jack In The Box.”
Host responsibility for a potluck can be a theme, ok, and to try and ensure no duplications . . . more than that . . .
Hell, when I host or partake of potluck picking parties there ARE no rules. But EVERYONE puts on their Sunday Best in the food . . . . . . a matter of personal pride to be as good as anyone else is gonna be. Personal heritage and family recipes rule, but it has to be good, no slackers unless money is an issue . . .
“offering up your home for friends and family to cook to your exacting specifications!”
When I open up my home and extend invites my friends bring booze.
The rest is mine and I intend to dazzle and impress with the food.
That’s how I entertain . . . when I do, be it family or friends.
A picking party, well, no time to bury self into food it’s time to sip, sup and PICK, SANG N SMILE!
So, I will have to add, I guess the situation drives SOME of the rule making.
(I hate rules for parties, I mean, it’s not a party if there are rules)