The three-judge federal Appeals Court panel has been announced for next week’s hearing on Perry v. Schwarzenegger. Shockingly, one of the judges (a George W Bush 2007 appointee to the federal appeals court) is a graduate of Brigham Young University, both undergraduate and law school. While a very small percentage of non-Mormons attend BYU, I think we can presume that an Idaho native who still lives in that state — and whose last name is Smith — is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Not for nothing is Proposition 8 known as The Mormon Proposition. The LDS elders have been shown, through documentary evidence, to have developed a decades-long alliance with the Roman Catholic heirarchy, beginning in Hawaii and flourishing in California and continuing in Argentina, to defeat marriage equality every step of the way. Official church resources were directed throughout the campaign at Prop 8′s passage. Testimony in Vaughn Walker’s courtroom shows that the Mormon Church, in its official capacity, directed the political involvement and tithe-donation of its members worldwide to the passage of Prop 8. This was an organized political fundraising effort to fundamentally change California’s civil rights laws.
Did Judge N. Randy Smith support that effort?
These are my questions for Judge N. Randy Smith:
– did you follow the dictates of your church elders?
– did you make a special contribution to assist with Prop 8′s passage?
– did you ask that your regular church tithe be segregated from activities supportive of Prop 8?
– have you taken a lead in your local stake in raising money?
– did you urge fellow LDS members to spend money or devote other resources to the passage of Prop 8?
– did you defy your church’s leaders and ignore their requests for special support of Prop 8?
In our plural system, the religion of judges should not matter. But when one denomination, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (the Mormon Church), directs the campaign for, sponsors, and funds the passage of a referendum that adds to a state’s constitution a ban on civil marriage, Americans have the right to know what their civil judges’ church involvement in the passage of that ban was. . . .
Just because it happened within the confines of a church doesn’t make it protected political speech that an impartial judge can join.
If Judge Smith can show us that, in defiance of his church’s teachings and instruction, he has not taken a stand or contributed to the passage of Proposition 8 in California in 2008 or assisted the church in its continued support of the defendant-intervenors’ case in favor of the marriage equality ban, then I will be satisfied that he brings the necessary cold, blind eye of justice to bear on Judge Vaughn Walker’s decision.
Until that time, N. Randy Smith is a suspect judge. He must recuse himself on the basis that his church’s teachings and activism, and the demands church leadership made of its members, disqualify him from rendering an impartial decision on Proposition 8.
UPDATE: Commenters at the Prop 8 Trial Tracker point out that other Mormons have had their BYU degrees revoked and been excommunicated for going against Church teachings on marriage equality. Can Judge Smith rule fairly if his livelihood as a judge is at risk? If the university that granted his undergraduate and law degrees can revoke them, isn’t he subject to blackmail by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? He can’t very well continue to serve as a judge if he no longer has a law degree, and the Church can and might revoke his academic credentials for fairly hearing, and adversely ruling on, the Prop 8 case.



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I will need to be convinced this judge is impartial.
Every bit of evidence of his church’s leadership of the campaign for Prop 8 would lead me to believe he cannot be. It would go against his church’s teachings for him to be impartial.
I like your post better than your headline, Teddy.
As you might imagine, I get nervous about knee-jerk broad-brush “she/he’s a member of religion X” attacks on judges, politicians, or others in public office. But the specific questions you ask of this specific judge with regard to this specific case are questions worth asking — and worth being answered.
These seem like exactly the kind of questions that would have been asked in voir dire of potential jurors, and answering “yes” to questions 2, 4, and 5 seem to my NAL eyes as the kind of thing that would have gotten Walker to remove the potential juror from the pool. If that can get a juror tossed, why not a judge?
If a judge donated money to the political campaign of a state legislator, and that legislator appeared six months later in his/her courtroom as a party to the case, would that run afoul of the standards for recusal? If a judge donated to a special appeal by the ACLU to help fund court battles that land in that same judge’s courtroom six months later, would that judge have to step aside? Again, I’m not a lawyer, but I think that the answer in both cases would be “yes” — and if so, then I would expect that the same principle applies here.
Asking for judicial recusal based simply on membership in a religious group, rather than because of specific actions taken by a judge, strikes me as a bit much. That’s what your headline does. But given the hierarchical nature of the LDS, it makes a lot of sense to ask the kind of specific questions you’ve posed in the post.
I suppose the headline could be “Can a Mormon Fairly Judge Prop 8?”
Update in the post:
UPDATE: Commenters at the Prop 8 Trial Tracker point out that other Mormons have had their BYU degrees revoked and been excommunicated for going against Church teachings on marriage equality. Can Judge Smith rule fairly if his livelihood as a judge is at risk? If the university that granted his undergraduate and law degrees can revoke them, isn’t he subject to blackmail by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? He can’t very well continue to serve as a judge if he no longer has a law degree, and the Church can and might revoke his academic credentials for fairly hearing, and adversely ruling on, the Prop 8 case.
I must admit I am uncomfortable with the idea that “a person of ‘Religion X’ must recuse himself form ‘Cause Y’.” That same argument was made against Judge Walker himself, and has been used against Black judges in Civil Rights cases for years. In all cases the requests have been shot down with strong language.
Now, the meat of your argument which is, “Has Smith *actively* contributed to the Prop 8 campaign?” is a good one, but honestly I can’t imagine that a thoughtful judge of any stripe would have contributed to such a mean-spirited campaign.
he does not appear to have made any donations to the Proposition 8 campaign, either for or against the measure.
You can still search the CA database of donations here:
http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/
This shows direct donations only; it doesn’t cover the mandatory donations to Church coffers for purposes of promoting Prop 8.
Darn good question, Teddy, and it leads me to wonder about Liberty University School of Law (Christian, link: http://www.liberty.edu/aboutliberty ) or Georgetown Law School (Catholic, link: http://www.liberty.edu/aboutliberty ) or any other private, religious-run school graduating law and other state-board qualified professionals as well as the leverage such groups might be tempted to use over their graduates.
A friend graduated Georgetown and we discussed the issues that came up when the Vatican tried to steer the University in the late 1990s. Georgetown folks pushed back, the discussion ended and life moved on as before. However, the issue came up again in 2007:
“The Vatican and the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops are reportedly investigating a book by a Georgetown University professor of theology, the Rev. Peter C. Phan, to determine whether the work is consistent with church doctrine regarding understandings of Roman Catholicism relative to other religions.”
- excerpt “At Variance With The Vatican” by (link: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/09/17/georgetown ).
See the biography of Georgetown professor Peter C. Phan (link: http://explore.georgetown.edu/people/pcp5 ). Dr. Phan is still with Georgetown.
As it’s a relatively new thing for students to be graduating law schools run by private, for-profit subsidiaries of news paper organizations, can we expect that those graduates will also be immune from the same blackmail position as Judge N. Randy Smith?
Very few members of the Church were exempt from the demands for extra tithing to support Prop 8. I think Judge Smith must affirmatively show that he resisted such entreaties.
Did Home Visitors come to his household to show his family their expected Prop 8 over-and-above contribution to LDS? Did he show them the door?
Revocation of his academic degrees, via excommunication, would result in Judge Smith no longer being qualified to serve on the bench. Would the LDS Church threaten his livelihood in this manner?
He needs to address this.
The complete citation in the prior comment is “At Variance With The Vatican” by Elizabeth Redden for Inside Higher Ed, Sept. 17, 2007 (link: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/09/17/georgetown ).
If you’re going to block mormon judges you have to block catholic judges too which I totally agree with.
Can we ask the same about a Catholic judge?
I’m an active, temple attending Mormon who didn’t support prop. 8 and no one is coming after me or my family. While the church tells members to follow the prophet, we’re also told to use our own brains and seek confirmations of the spirit ourselves. I don’t proclaim to know God’s will on every issue, including this one, but I try to do what’s right and follow my own conscience; I suspect Judge Smith will do the same.
While the Catholic Church was active in supporting Prop 8 it did not make the demands on its parishoners for mandatory contributions and mandatory personal activism that the Mormon Church got from its members. So while there may be other reasons for your wanting to recuse a Catholic judge – they are not in the same league with the Mormons on this particular issue.
Are you a judge or public official? If not that is probably why you are allowed to be at rest with your conscience. Thank you for your efforts to try to do what is right. I am not interested in condemning religions – except when they institutionalize bad actions.
I thought Judges were supposed to follow the law and not their conscience.
Thanks for your kind response lokywoky…I have to disagree with you however on one point: Mormon’s in the limelight don’t have to worry about receiving negative action from the church for disagreeing with issues like Prop. 8. Senator Harry Reid is very public in trying to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and still very welcome in the church.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/17386/204024
Marie Osmond is another Mormon who supports gay rights:
http://www.celebitchy.com/49927/mormon_marie_osmond_defends_her_gay_daughters_right_to_marry/
Want another? Steve Young and his wife voted No on 8:
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/11/03/steve-young-has-pro-gay-marriage-signs-in-front-of-his-house/
Members of the LDS church are all over the board in their beliefs on this issue…I should know…I attend every Sunday.
Maryccurnin: I agree judges shoes follow the law over conscience, I don’t believe anyone is objective however, and our conscience will always be connected to our interpretation of things whether we belive it is or not.
wrote too fast…sorry the grammatical errors.
This guy is a law professor from BYU and what??? He didn’t support Prop. 8…
http://www.hrc.org/issues/religion/11304.htm
I’ve listened to him speak very candidly about his support for gay rights…great guy.
This BYU science professor and former mission president also supports gay rights…
http://mormonstories.org/?p=1158
Here’s a popular mormon poet and writer…huge supporter of gay rights…
http://www.byhigh.org/Alumni_U_to_Z/Wright/Pearson.html
I understand why you all are scared that a Mormon may not thoughtfully evaluate the law on this issue, but there are open-minded and intelligent Mormons out there on both sides of the debate. That’s all.
I think a better title would be Should Someone Who Believes In Magic Underwear Be A Judge
I ran a hunk of the anti Prop 8 campaign in noCal. We flipped the county by 22 points from the previous anti-gay prop.
Since that time, I have run out of unemployment insurance and am living on $72 a week on disability and food stamps. A glorious life, so glamorous. Many people have stepped up to help. Including the Mormon relatives who were at our big lesbian wedding.
Eliza I appreciate your willingness to do the right thing. Same for Steve Young and his wife which is a big deal here in 49er country. I have seen my Mormon neighbors change by living near us.
I think these are really important questions. I don’t know we will get the answers before the trial so we will have to watch closely. Oh hell Olson andBoies will be on them just like before.
like.
I can not think of anything more irrelevant than the problem of having an LDS raised Judge sit on a three judge panel deciding the fate of gay marriage. This type of nonsense is why the Obama majority stayed home last month. There are 750,000 North Koreans massing along the 38th line of demarkation as I type.This week another 400,000 will file for first time unemployment insurance. Last week 55 Kids from small town America were flushed down an Afghan toilet and liberals spend time talking about such trivialities. Any lawyer with a brain larger than an acorn knows a judge with religious beliefs which seem opposed to one side or the other will bend over backward trying to appear unbiased. Usually this works in favor of those who fear his ideas. This panel will do what they always do. They will duck the case and ship it upstairs or find some arcane priciple of common law favored by Lord Coke of the 17th century and throw out the entire case. No faceless troll, your typical court of appeals judge, wants to be famous for doing anything except giving boring graduation speeches at law schools.
Zenostoa
People have been excommunicated for having NO ON 8 signs in their yard.
Yes, it’s a total non-problem that pales in comparison to the real issues of the day, but worthy of an extensive comment by you nonetheless.
Funny, that.
The dictates of the LDS you list seem to make it inappropriate and illegal for Mormons to be judges.
Last year Harry Reid’s Senate [Reid is also a Mormon] pushed a bill (which didn’t pass) that would finally allow WashingtonDC a vote in Congress. But here’s the catch: DC (with a Black majority) could get its representation if and only if Utah got another vote [undeserved, based on population] to counteract it. This is significant not just because DC’s Rep would likely be a Black Democrat and Utah’s would definitely be a White Republican, but because the Mormon religion believed until the 1970s that Blacks had no soul.
Before its demise in 1970, the official Mormon publication Millennial Star quoted Joseph Smith rebuking “the rebellious niggers in the slave states.” Mormon founder Smith taught “…the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species…” LDS could very nearly be classified a Hate Group. Here’s some of their hateful racist history:
http://www.christiandefense.org/mor_black.htm
So that leads to bigotry against Mormons too. Critics say that their rituals are copied from Freemasons and that their religion is a not-too-clever deception designed to control stupid or superstitious people, and to direct them to carry out Right-wing missions such as racial discrimination and voting.
Here in Massachusetts, my friend John is a liberal Irish Catholic. “Liberal” is too soft a word … “progressive” or “leftist reformer” is more accurate. Once he warned me of a danger that a Mormon may try to run for Governor. It happened. Mitt Romney got elected.
Though Romney’s public posturing presented him as a conservative, he governed as a liberal, and we got Gay Marriage legalized. Yes, we had a White Mormon Republican Governor who was a liberal, but tried to look like he wasn’t. Now, we have a Black Democratic President who is a far-Right ideologue, and some people call him “liberal,” apparently because of the color of his skin.
If the Republicans nominate Romney and the Democrats nominate Obama, I know from the personal experience of living under both, that despite their rhetoric, Romney is much much much much much much more liberal than Obama. If those are the only two viable candidates, Romney will definitely have my vote: We need to swing the country back to the Left.
Due to your lack of a prose style worthy of a ” Depends ” ad,I could not tell if your comment was a ” Funny Ha Ha or a Funny Peculiar.” I learned to type on an Underwood non-electric typewriter[ 75 wpm ]. I can spit out clever allusions and vieled propaganda faster than you can knee jerk. I will slow d o w n j u s t for you.
Zenostoa
So did Harry Reid make that mandatory contribution?
The Church did not demand extra tithing. They (very strongly) encouraged donations to the Yes on 8 campaign, and in many cases the funds were actively solicited by local LDS leadership, but they were not funneled through the Church itself. The Church as an organization made something like $180,000.00 of donations “in kind” — flights, hotel rooms, call center use, personnel, etc.
A small distinction perhaps, but still important.
I am not aware of any credible evidence that BYU has revoked a degree AFTER it has been awarded. The Chad Hardy case, cited in the linked page above, was different as he had not yet graduated when he was excommunicated. (Still a churlish, needlessly vindictive thing for the school to do, imo, but a different situation nonetheless.)
I guess that would be 75 wpm with at least one veiled error.
Teddy’s premise is we should assume that a Mormon judge, solely on the basis of his religion, is more likely to violate his Oath of Office than other judges. Along the same lines, maybe we should have required Judge Walker to divulge his sexual orientation, before he was allowed to preside over the case. Fortunately, we have the Constitution (Art. VI, sec. 3) to protect us from the views of Mr. Partridge and others of his ilk, such as the KKK.
Can you point me in the direction of any sources for this claim? Thanks!
A little over the top in your hyperbole, no? Kinda like the Nazis.
Should an extreme liberal judge Proposition 8?
Judge Reinhardt’s ideology is surely just as determinative of his views as Judge Smith’s religion is determinative of his views.
Why does this blogger have no qualms about Judge Reinhardt’s ideology while expressing opposition to Judge Smith?
Why is ideology OK while religion is not?
Who elevated ideology and demoted religion?
The answer is simple. Gays and liberal want what they want and any view (ideology, etc.) that gives them what they want is “good” and any view (religion, etc.) that denies them what they want is “bad.”
Lastly, did this blogger demand that the trial judge recuse himself because he was gay and thus a member of the group that this lawsuit was meant to benefit?
No more than this article.
Identify the over the top hyperbole in this article. A direct quote should suffice. Thanks!