North Carolina State Representative Larry Brown, proving that ignorance about public health knows no bounds even in the 21st century, wants to deny state assistance to citizens who contracted HIV through their own “perverted lifestyle.” This returns the debate to the era of the Innocent Victim, when only little children who got AIDS through botched blood transfusions or while being born to junkie moms were worthy of America’s attention and assistance. There’s a reason the most comprehensive federal assistance for HIV patients is named after a boy who was shunned at school, not a friendless San Francisco drag queen tossed out on the street.
Rationing care based on how you got your disease? It’s a pernicious proposal, and we may see more of it as states seek to cut assistance to anyone, anywhere, in their desperate attempt to balance their budgets.
Of course, Brown made this proposal within a conversation about his support of a constitutional amendment to affirm traditional opposite marriage as the only form permitted in his state:
He began by discussing his support for a constitutional amendment limiting marriage to a union between one man and one woman, which would forestall any efforts to allow same-sex marriage.
He went on to say he thinks the government shouldn’t spend money to treat HIV among people “living in perverted lifestyles.”
“I’m not opposed to helping a child born with HIV or something, but I don’t condone spending taxpayers’ money to help people living in perverted lifestyles,” said Brown, who ran unopposed in the November election to win a fourth term.
Brown extends his money-saving lack of compassion to others affected by their own choice — including smokers, an unusual stance in North Carolina:
Brown wouldn’t say Tuesday what he considers perverted, but did say that adults who get HIV through sexual behavior or drugs would be among those who should not be treated at government expense.
Asked how he would feel about the government paying for diseases caused by smoking, Brown said he felt the same as for HIV because smokers “choose to do that on their own.”
So — North Carolinians! — don’t do anything on your own that might make you sick, if you ever hope for state help.
Pam Spaulding says we’ll see more of this in North Carolina, not less. It’s very dangerous due to the GOP being in control now:
The 2010 midterm turnover of our legislature here in NC — it will now be under GOP control for the first time since Reconstruction — is such a horrific development that it is no surprise that the emboldened good old country boys are going right for the throats of the LGBT community.
Out of the box there is talk not about jobs and the economy, but cutting funding for HIV/AIDS and pushing a marriage amendment, which has been killed repeatedly in committee when the GA was under Dem control.
“And how did you get your HIV?” isn’t the question we want caregivers forced to ask when determining a course of treatment. AIDS drugs are horrifically expensive. Most people can’t pay for them without help. But as resources become increasingly scarce, states with Compassionate Conservative™ legislatures might find it’s one way to reduce their spending on those with “perverted lifestyles,” never among the popular recipients of state assistance.




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We are a nation of dunderheads. Disgusting. thanks, Teddy.
I wonder what this state senator’s response would be if “Diaper Dave” were a North Carolina resident and came down with HIV/AIDS?
As GOP Compassionate Conservatism™ takes over in other states as well this month, people need to be on the lookout for exactly this kind of move. It’s wrong and it’s hateful, but it’ll happen.
Or the neighboring former governor, while “hiking the Appalachian Trial?”
“Asked how he would feel about the government paying for diseases caused by smoking, Brown said he felt the same as for HIV because smokers “choose to do that on their own.”
Teddy, the stance on smoking actually makes sense from an NC politico’s (ie Big Tobacco’s) viewpoint… smoking is a lifestyle choice because tobacco is not a drug, addictive, harmful, etc.
Besides, if it were up to this asshat and asshats like him, he would no doubt prefer that no one receive medical treatment or prescription drugs paid for by the government. Healthcare for sick folk paid by the state doesn’t square with his state’s rights, small government, social darwinist philosophies.
Ill second that.
Well, that’ll be a money-saver for the state, as will be the savings from letting people die who are injured in automobile accidents when they are cited for being at fault.
“Decided to fall asleep and drift over the centerline, did you? Tough shitsky, you are out on the sidewalk, dude.”
I wonder how what this guy thinks about the wars and bailing out the banks. Hes probably just hunky dory with both of those. Hypocrites of the highest order.
Makes me wonder though why is it that public policy is made by a bunch of old farts in this country?
And, North Carolina’s got a HELL of a tabacco lobby; I’d say Mr. Brown is in a little ca-ca, contribution-wise. :o)
I used to think South Carolina and Texas were the only states full of mentally unstable leaders. Glad to know that affliction has reached others./ s
Man! Are we ever in trouble with the hatred and making of enemies in this country.
Absolutely! Tobacco used to be the number one crop!
“…traditional opposite marriage,” eh? That leaves almost everything to the imagination. Like, Mark Sanford being attracted to someone honest and decent or Larry Brown being attracted to someone with empathy and intelligence or or…………… Gosh, think of the possible pairings.
Nice/
Words fail me.
Larry Craig lookalike Larry Brown ran unopposed to win his fourth term. Why doesn’t anyone else run against this creep?
In Africa the #1 way HIV is transmitted is when a heterosexual married couple have sex.
If there is a greater danger to the community from homosexuals having sex with many different partners, then the easiest and most sensible way to protect the community is to let gays marry, so they won’t be so promiscuous.
Brown is the proverbial five-tool politician: white, male, aging, Southern, and mean.
Oklahoma belongs near the head of that list as well.
This creep looks like a poster child for hidden perverted lifestyles
Calling Mike Rogers! Calling Mike Rogers! Send some operatives to Greensboro, stat!
This is just the beginning of rationing medical care for whatever flimsy reason can be advanced. In the ‘exceptional’ U.S. of A. it is not possible to limit profits of ins. ind., so must find another way to cut costs. Namely by killing sick people. The true death panels, which no one in corp media will point out.
Makes me shudder to think of what sort of monster a “health care reform bill” conceived by these Republican neanderthals would look like. Talk about your death panels…
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Bet he’s a pedophile. Kinda looks like one.
What’s his take on morbid obesity?
Heh. He looks like a former boss of mine, Al Wojnilower. Despite the fact that he was former Chief Economist of First Boston, I can’t seem to find a photo of him on the toobz. He is around 85 and still writes an occasional economics newsletter for a hedge fund. He, along with Henry Kaufman of Salomon Bros, made their names as Drs. Doom & Gloom in the inflationary 1970s.
I nominate North Carolina for the 2011 “Prisoners of Their Hairdos” Award (written and performed Christine Lavin; link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95c9tdZIPHk )
Good question!
Funny.
The GOP just don’t bother to try and dissuade the perception that if you’re not rich, white and all wingnutty that their idea of healthcare is that you should just die as quickly as possible,
Good lord, Alan Grayson was right. “Don’t get sick, and if you do get sick, die quickly.”
Has this idiot ever heard of the concept of “contagion.” It’s been in all the papers for the last 150 years. I guess girlfriends/boyfriends are out of luck, since they’re having premarital sex. And wives/husbands who get HIV from their spouses are out, because it’s their fault their spouse strayed.
So the only money is for infants. And if you make the paperwork really tricky, they’ll be dead soon, too. Hey, presto! No money for HIV needed! Big savings, time for a tax cut!
This man probably also considers himself to be a “good” Christian. He obviously missed that pithy little bit of the New Testament that states “Judge not lest you be judged”.
Perverted lifestyles, eh? Well then no benefits for you, Larry because your twisted judgment and condemnation of others are about as perverted as it gets.
The state is broke so he tries to pass off his responsibility for the state being broke by blaming the Gays.
Transplant patients like AZ has cut off are next then Preemie Babies no mention of state’s investing funds in accounts that pay no interest, sweetheart deals to political fat cats that never paid off, outrageous fees paid to wallstreet for crappy performance and no regulation during the Bush Years in what states invested in.
Sorry NC isn’t my state specific examples are best provided by a local.
Still blame the Gay is easier than NC wasted the money and in good times never thought to save any money.
Ignorance is bad. Should he cut off funds for Tabacco-from N. Carolina or overweight from fatty foods? COPD due to polution?
This is no human with compassion.