Echoing his commander in chief in issuing statements that provide improper command influence in the trial of Bradley Manning, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, stated unequivocally that Manning broke the law.
To review, here’s what Barack Obama said when asked about Bradley Manning in April 2011:
And if you’re in the military… And I have to abide by certain rules of classified information. If I were to release material I weren’t allowed to, I’d be breaking the law.
We’re a nation of laws! We don’t let individuals make their own decisions about how the laws operate. He broke the law.
It appears that President Obama’s highest military officer agrees with him:
The Joint Chiefs chairman also was asked about Manning, the alleged WikiLeaks contributor, and whether Dempsey thought Manning should be viewed as a political prisoner, whistle-blower or traitor.
“We’re a nation of laws. He did violate the law,” Dempsey said.
This is a very disturbing echo of a very disturbing pronouncement from the Commander in Chief. If the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs publicly says that Manning did “violate the law,” how long until that is the view of the entire jury pool? Especially since the Joint Chiefs Chairman’s statement was almost a year later, as preliminary hearings are underway, and was made to a reporter for Stars & Stripes.
The audience for this statement is serving military. The jury pool will see this statement of Gen Dempsey’s.
I hope this statement is brought up to the judge by Manning’s counsel. In a command environment, these unequivocal statements from the highest civilian and military commanders cannot have no impact on those selected to serve on the jury, in Manning’s court martial. They can be seen to have an improper command influence of those on the bench during the current hearings.
This improper command influence must stop if there’s to be even the semblance of a fair trial.




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What a farce!
Especially since he didn’t even answer the question, or at least wasn’t quoted as having done:
They sure want to make sure there’s no chance of a fair trial.
How stupid, how unbelievably stupid.
I guess this is another person who never heard of innocent until proven guilty
Isn’t it the obligation of a soldier to report war crimes when they see them?
Working down the command chain, soon it’ll be the commander of Ft Meade, where hearings are taking place, who’ll make a similar statement, then the judge presiding over the hearings. They can’t exactly make a statement contradicting their civilian commander in chief and highest military leader, can they?
Even now, there is no ‘semblance of a fair trial’; they want his head and nothing will stop them.
I don’t see what the problem is. We know that 0 is a “Constitutional scholar” so he knows what he can and can’t say. Since Manning has been arrested, he must be guilty because the military wouldn’t arrest an innocent man. Therefore, 0 is perfectly at ease pronouncing Manning to be guilty. general dempsey certainly is familiar with not interfering with the ucmj proceedings so, knowing that the military only arrests and tortures the guilty, he is perfectly on solid legal ground to pronounce Manning guilty. What great ‘leadership’ we have in this country. If you still have questions, you can contact me here.
Very simply he has already been tried and sentenced. The farce of a trial will only appease the masses, which is the point.
O and Dempsey know this. Can’t pay kabuki all the time. Everyone slips. They both have. 0 consequences.
The terms “prejudicial” and “above the law” come to mind.
And slightly off-topic, but pretty important, as I see it…
From ZH.
And the original story from Wired.
I feel safer already…
If Obama and the top brass really cared about lawbreakers, it seems there were plenty of evildoers. Investigate and prosecute war crimes.
Yes, ‘look backward’ because justice demands it if we are truly a nation of laws. Obama swore to do that, but he isn’t.
I think the truth is they’re embarrassed by the release of information, and so Manning must be harshly punished. (Even before being found guilty of anything.)
Someone asked not too long ago about why comments may be down. I’m certain that I’m not the only FDLer suffering from outrage fatigue. I went to my pharmacist to get that green pill that is supposed to help one suffering from political impotence, but he wouldn’t give it to me since I don’t have the proper ‘Murkan Accoutrement” that is apparently only found on rich white males of a certain age. My lady parts defeated my options once again. I wish I could help Bradley Manning, but I guess he has been designated this season’s scape goat. Sad. So sad.
Tom, the military trial judge, Col. Denise Lind,
“…also said that military law says that a soldier’s personal beliefs or convictions are not sufficient for a soldier to determine if an order is illegal.”
Comment @22 on Kevin’s post:
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/03/16/live-blog-bradley-manning-motion-hearing-day-2/#comments
Seemingly confirming the “Nuremberg defense” … which was once held to be insufficient as a defense …
DW
Tell me about it! I feel so disloyal. My commenting has declined severely. I keep thinking I will bounce back.
MaryMc: I’m glad we’re friends! We are going to need some comforting sharing over the next few months/years to struggle through.
Wonder what dempsey’s opinion is of the pos cheney and bush’s war crimes. I bet he doesn’t have the guts to influence that debacle. Just another two bit clown with too much power.
We are all Bradley Manning just fucking lock us up now you dick headz.
Justice is really just-us. The rest of us are fodder. Excuse me but i have yet to have enough coffee.
That was how things were in the 20th century.
Apparently it’s changed now.
Just like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland: “Sentence first, trial afterwards!”
I doubt that they will keep Sgt. Bales imprisoned for months and months before they try him. Speedy trial, may go to jail or not, and quickly hidden away. When will Obama pronounce Him guilty?
The Manning farce is Obama flexing his muscles to show how tough he is.
Unlike Manning, Bales didn’t get the Club-Med Experience at Quantico first, either. He went Straight to Leavenworth, apparently. Just another bad apple among a few bad apples, that guy.
We’re not a nation of laws, not really.
Poisoning the jury pool is really unfair to Manning, but this doesn’t spook me as much as the fact that the IO and now Lind seem to strongly favor the prosecution.
Ya know i have to do the jury thing again on Monday and just like all the times in the past the prosecuter has me thrown off as they dont want someone who know what from what. It all wastes my time and i wish they would just scrap my name from the pool. Now i have to ask is my vote worth putting up with this shit?
0 has already declared that he can assassinate citizens, so Manning is being treated comparatively mildly by the power-mad authoritarian in office.
you never know, you might be just the one needed on that jury … could be for the defendant or perhaps for the victim. think about the 17 yr old we read about today, stalked and killed.
Well, that’s true. And it’s no secret why, now, is it?
Their favoring the prosecution won’t go unrewarded within command ranks.
I could agree with you but for the fact i am in podunk town where the most that a trial will be is someone trying to beat a DUI. The question in my mind is that my vote is stolen by electronic voting machines and i have to put up with jury duty every other year and why continue. My vote dont mean shit when they steal it anyway. And i dont like the hassle of doing the jury selection when i know they aint ever going to select me. Jury of our peers my ass.
Bradley Manning got shit on in front of the whole fucking world. And i am supposed to believe in Just-us.
I wonder how long it will before Bradley Manning will be recognized for the hero that he is? Decades? Generations? Centuries? How sad that it may not be in his lifetime. How sad that we all have to suffer the consequences of suppressed whistleblowing. The injustice may soon surpass Leonard Pelletier.
There, Dempsey, I corrected it for you. And you are are one of the chief outlaws.
recent Dempsey:
“The Iranians may find themselves in the same boat[as Iraq]. They could get it wrong and suffer the consequences,” he said.
Dempsey is threatening another Iraq! How legal is that? Iran is not even guilty of false charges of having a nuke, as Iraq was, but only of having “ambitions!” The difference: When Dempsey breaks the law he kills a lot of innocent people, when Manning allegedly broke the law he uncovered the killing of innocents.
Get the hook for this guy, but it won’t do any good. Manning is a dead duck in any “military justice” charade.
Still, just tell them the truth–”Cops are a$$holes”, and you’ll be free to go.
If the judge in the Manning case wants to have a military career, she now unequivocally knows which side her bread is buttered on.
New Pics of Bradley Manning on Cryptome. He looks a little older.
It gets harder to keep on commenting, plus I feel like I’m incredibly redundant. What else is there to say?
The system is utterly broken.
The 1% OWNS the 99%.
The so-called “Republican Primary” is a joke of a Kabuki Show.
Bradley Manning is effectively f**ked and the notion of a “fair trail” flew out the window when O declared him *guilty* some months ago.
Thanks for the update, Teddy. Sadly unsurprised. The PTB are out for Manning’s head on a platter, and apparently, that’s how it shall be. I am mightily sorry for Pfc Bradley Manning, who I consider to be a true American hero.
This is a sham; a kangaroo court. Manning is toast & has already been declared guilty by his Commander in Chief and now this bozo. Might as well cut to the chase, skip the Kabuki Show entitled “Pfc Bradley Manning ‘Trial’”. What’s the frickin’ point?? Might as well be honest for a change and go immediately to the sentencing, which will be the maximum for the charges laid against him. Bastards.
I wonder if Bradley Manning will be subject of a firing squad? Or perhaps he will be drawn and quartered? Perhaps crucified with a passel of men in dresses and Gucci shoes shouting, “Crucify him!” The irony, it aches.