You know, you used to be able to know, right from the get-go, where the Republican Party was – they were definitely the cat with the big bell on its neck. But these days, some of them seem to think they have a problem:
"We’re in this rebuilding time," Monica Notzon, a Washington-based Republican fundraiser, helpfully explained this month. "Trying to figure out who we are.
GOP does not know who they are
There ARE, though a couple of Republicans who appear to have a clear grasp (or perhaps not) on what the Republicans stand for and those two people are Mitch McConnell and Eric Cantor. They locked down complete Republican rejection of the stimulus program put forward this week. They don’t want to be seen as The Grinch, however:
“The GOP may not control the agenda, but there are reasons for hope. We share a set of values that make us unapologetic about rewarding hard work and preserving the incentive for small businesses and the self-employed to grow. History is on our side. Countries, towns and communities stagnate when government micromanages industry and people are left to depend on handouts. They thrive when small, medium and large private businesses – driven to innovate and grow – create sustainable jobs.
At a moment when the country needs our help, it would be a great mistake for the House GOP to turn inward and simply become the party of “no.”
Really, Eric – actually, the GOP is not only the party of ‘no’ – it’s the party of Hell, no – Never – and over our dead bodies. The president met with them on several occasions – went TO them, and then invited THEM to come see him.
“Obama also persuaded House Democrats to remove provisions related to family-planning from the stimulus and — over the objections of many Democrats — inserted large tax cuts for businesses that Republicans wanted.
None of it was enough.
After the vote, Republican Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said that he hoped the zero-vote showing would persuade Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to make changes to the bill during negotiations between the House and Senate.
"The onus is on Speaker Pelosi. She needs to meet with us. She needs to open her doors. We need to begin to work truly in a bipartisan fashion," he said.”
Oh, Eric – the President of the United States is not good enough for you? You need Granny Pelosi to come to see you too? More cookies? What are you looking for?
“Cantor said the emphasis should be on cutting taxes, rejecting the Keynesian theory that when private sector investment recedes, the government must step in and be the employer and investor of last resort.
"Keynesian economics doesn’t hold a candle to the entrepreneurship that made this economy so prosperous up until the last six months," said Cantor.”
As we have seen here at FDL through all the economic analysis and writing, the economy was not ‘so prosperous up until the last six months’. As a matter of fact, the US economy has basically been in the toilet for several years – but Cantor and the Republicans seem to think that if it hadn’t been for those poor people who somehow got their hands on home mortgages that were too big for them, everything would have been just fine and dandy.
Except as we have also seen, people have been screaming and trying to get attention for the financial mess for at least 10 years.
Not much of a mess, Eric? Don’t want to cooperate? Or is it just, as Professor Wagstaff up at the top says about Democratic proposals, ‘Whatever it is, you’re against it?”



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Awesome. Thanks Toby!
Thanks Egreg!
And, Digg is open, folks.
GOP..think..oxymoron..’g’
Well, ‘grand’ they ain’t – petty is more like it. These guys would not know what ‘leadership’ meant if it came up and bit them in the nose.
it’s the damn hypocrisy that gets me .. where were their fiscal scruples bwtween the years 2001 and late 2006 … ?? totally MIA ..that’s where ..
it’s riduculous that ayone would listen to the republicans on economic policy .. or fiscal responsibility .. all they’ve ever preached are “tax cuts” and “trickle down” .. and we’re all seen how that worked out ..
so why oh why is anyone granting them credibility in any form ??
i’ve said it before and i’ll repeat it now .. i’ve summed up the entire bush cavalcade by bastardizing an old sir winston churchill quote concerning the RAF in WW2:
never have so many been so wrong about so much.. so often .. for so long ..
my question is still why is anyone listening to them .. and where do they “get off” pretending they have even a smidgen of integrity or credibility remaining ??
i don’t get it .. and there ain’t enough tar and feathers in the whole damn nation to overstate the point …
the GOP can go straight to hell ..and stay there .. imo
the problem is that the GOP is ‘the daddy party’ and they always (except for Frist and the Terry Schiavo thing) sound soooo reasonable – gives people confidence and all that. But the problem is that they are so cynical; they could not care less, believe me.
lol! i just posted this youtube @ skippy, even before i read your diary!
Great minds think alike…. :)
That’s better. He just needs an editor..
Key word: unapologetic.
Yep, the GOP has nothing to apologize for.
this is the new talking point.
Darn Right. The GOP has to apologize for nothing. We do not need new massive government like the Bamster is proposing. As the GOP has made it known what’s in the bill, support for the bill has plummeted by 42% and the GOP has made its view noted to Congress. Even the Democrat Leadership doesn’t think it can pass the bill as it stands without taking the pork out of it and putting more tax cuts in…
OK — so what DO we need, if you don’t think that the stimulus bill is the answer? Hmmm? Because the economy is circling the exit to the toilet pretty good right now and all I’m hearing out of the GOPs in Congress is:tax cuts and ‘no, we won’t’.
We need to make the tax cuts permanent to lock in the economy. Business hates uncertainty. We need to repeal CAFE standards and drill here, drill now and pay less for energy WHILE working on alternatives. We need to loosen the tort liars hold over the legal system and make it possible for business to hire more people with less regulation.
Because the flexibility that Business has had over the past 8 years has really worked for the US economy, right? mmmmm…..no.
Actually, the last economy has been very good until the Democrats pushed through the bills which required Fanny and Freddy to make unreasonable loans to folks who shouldn’t have qualified. George Bush was not to blame for a Democrat congress in the last two years who dug the hole to start with.
No, actually the economy has been very poor in terms of creating and holding on to jobs for at least the last 4 years. Wages have been stagnant for quite some time. Hundreds of thousands of jobs have been outsourced overseas due to just the sort of flexibility and legislation that you espouse, leaving people without decent jobs or wages, and that is one of the things that has caused a lot of people not to be able to pay their mortgages. Additionally, someone who you probably think of as a hero, Ronald Reagan, is the one who espoused all the loosening up of credit, which threw gas on the fire for people like MBNA and banks to give credit cards to people who did not have jobs or income to handle it. Oh, business loves flexibility – but this not only did nothing to help Americans, it actually has hurt the economy in terms of creating and keeping jobs and keeping American’s in wages that will pay the bills. Sorry – your argument does not stand up. And cutting taxes on businesses does NOT cause them to invest in jobs. And obviously as we’ve seen, giving money to the banks has not caused them to make loans to businesses, which is really what is needed by business so that they have working capital.
It is always good to hear from the people who gave the crash advice on how to get out of it, especially when that advice looks a lot like the policies that produced it.
Oh, Eric – the President of the United States is not good enough for you? You need Granny Pelosi to come to see you too? More cookies? What are you looking for?
Not sure if Eric can even *spell* “cookies”.
Boner’sBoehner’s support might be available though, if Obama promises more cocktail parties.LOTS of parties, each with LOTS of cocktails….
OT, but given Toby’s great sense of humor, I hope she doesn’t mind.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new…..icate.html
Hey, we need all the laughs we can get here.
Hey rethugs, hard working, exploited Americans fully see you what for you are…the party of stupidity and greed. You might try a little less of both next time.
The rethugs are going to have a meeting in the Tom Delay room at GOP Headquarters to unveil the Rush Limbaugh altar and discuss bipartisanship./s
Dwight D. Eisenhower:
“if a rule of reason is not applied… we will lose everything–even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon “moderation” in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”
The last great Republican President.
Great quote!
second that! off to look for a link
The Party of Bush has no use for ideas from dead generals.
linky:
Document #1147; November 8, 1954
To Edgar Newton Eisenhower
Series: EM, AWF, Name Series ; Category: Personal and confidential
The Papers of Dwight David Eisenhower, Volume XV – The Presidency: The Middle Way
Part VI: Crises Abroad, Party Problems at Home; September 1954 to December 1954
Chapter 13: “A new phase of political experience”
well, personally, i’m lovin this. i think about how this is all going to look in history……..the party of “Hell NO!”
and i’m loving that they learned from Bu$h that when something fails, DOUBLE DOWN on it.
highly entertaining and we don’t need them anyway.
The GOP lawmakers remind me of teenagers — they say no just to say no. Because they can. Because they want to distance themselves from the adults in authority (the Democrats, perhaps, are the adults?). If they keep saying no indefinitely, the American public is going to become as fed up with them as they were with Bush and VOTE THEM OUT.
The Bush Tax Cuts created this economic mess, yet Cantor believes that the emphasis should be on cutting taxes. Perhaps he should ponder this definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
the rethugs will never compromise with the dems because they have the MSM and the villagers on their side and because they can just keep voting no all the while presenting blue sky solutions like tax cuts with nothing to back up what they are saying, but as long as they get face time on TV with no one to challenge what they say, they will continue to be the potty of TAX CUTS, TAX CUTS and still more TAX CUTS. And if the dems-the majority party(even if they do lack a spine) continue to cave to the rethugs because, darn it all, they want to be loved and the rethugs said that they will go along as long as the bill is nothing but TAX CUTS. Grow a spine Reid, force the rethugs to actually follow thru on their threats to filibuster. Stop attempting to get friendship and love from the rethugs, they are extremists and will never compromise their desire to once more be in charge and will do their damndest to sabotage every bill that Obama puts forth.
R’s are engaging in douchebaggery of the highest order.
It is what they do best. It’s too bad they’ve been so successful at fooling voters.
I know who they are! The party of unrestrained greed, corruption, lies, racism etc. Should i send them an email?
This has been a recurrent Republican myth. From my scandals list:
Thanks. Hugh, for looking that up for us. Wow, 22 million versus 3 million. The Clinton job creation came after a tax increase (remember how the GOP predicted disaster?), and the shitty Bush job creation record came after…well, you know all about that. But that won’t stop them from touting tax cuts as magical job creators.
damn. that reminds me of a book review i just read from usatoday:
Well, I think Samuelson called it, except for the crash and burn part.
it’s not often i see the mask slip quite so much: the growing gap between rich and poor is just the price of soaring corporate profits.
It is fairly amazing what a blindness it shows. Prosperity for Samuelson means a bigger GDP. But what is the point of having a bigger GDP if people lack healthcare and face poverty in retirement? He also completely misses the crucial point that most of that growth in GDP was in the paper economy which has collapsed over the real economy. Again mammoth, monumental blindness.
an unfortunate price of prosperity. /s
The GOP has just elected Charlton Heston as the RNCC leader. Citing an unamed source; “might as well be a dead guy now, we can’t elect a live one”
snark
MrGOPer, Good Morning…
Cut taxes.
MrGOPer, there are a lot of uninsured who need health insurance…
Cut Taxes
MrGOPer, We are fighting a bloody war occupation in Iraq, with too few soldiers, and…
Cut Taxes
MrGOPer, the Financial Industry has failed because it let too much money who could never pay it back…
Cut Taxes
MrGOPer, We need an alternative to oil, because its running out and we need to build up a new supply of energy, wind…
Cut Taxes, drill, baby, drill
MrGOPer, Our roads are crumbling, and bridges are failing…
Cut Taxes
MrGOPer, our schools are failing to produce well educated citizens your business need to compete in the 21st century,…
Cut Taxes, import cheap labor, export jobs…
MrGOPer, we cannot afford such a large military…
Cut Taxes, Cut Welfare, Borrow Money…
MrGOPer, we cannot afford to borrow so much money for wars,
Cut Taxes, Cut Welfare, Borrow Money…
MrGOPer, we a loosing jobs, people are not buying stuff, the economy is declining, your companies (who are not paying taxes) are not making profits…
Cut Taxes
MrGOPer, is there anyone behind the curtain?
Cut Taxes, Cut Welfare, Borrow Money…Tape Recording, with notice “We are out to Golf, the tape contains our complete political platform”
The Groucho bit is inspired.
actually, that entire movie is filled with stuff that reminds me of the last 8 years…
I really have to admit that it seems that these R’s have a head problem, ~23% approval, hold only 5 states and the numbers just keep getting worse so they think that getting even MORE conservative will help them? WOW time to change the meds for sure
Next up: the Republiscum filibuster the House lunch order.
GOP=No Hos.
-G
This reminds me of the rethug tax cut meme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdrtPrk9Ohc
lol!
Is “Party of No,” “responsible parent code” for a room full of spoiled, tantrum throwing toddlers?
If the answer is yes, that makes the last eight years make a great deal more sense.
In the famous words of SNL:
Really? Really!!
New post—>>
Also a side effect from the transition between manufacturing value and manufacturing debt.
The Stock Market reflects the investment of largely the Middle Class. Two years ago it was near 14,000 which reflected the retirement and home potentials of millions of middle class members. Now, since the Dems have worried about the unworking and undeserving poor over the needs of hard working middle class people, the value of those dollars has halved and OUR jobs are endangered. Nice Job, Dems. Now turn the people loose and cut taxes and de-regulate everywhere you can so you lower the cost of doing business and make it possible to create those jobs for all.
You are embarrassing yourself. George Bush was President in 2008. The economy was his. The Democrats from 2006-2008 have been spectacularly unsuccessful getting much of their agenda enacted so much of the legislation and virtually all the spending bills reflect Republican not Democratic priorities during this time.
Same thing with your previous statement about Fannie and Freddie. It is just factually wrong. Fannie and Freddie were late comers to an already overheated market. Most of the loans that were bad were made by commercial lenders and were not made to the “poor and undeserving” but to those in the middle class. Bush was a major cheerleader in all this with his theme of the “Ownership society”. If Bush had been interested in preventing bad loan making he would not have blocked the efforts of state attorney generals in 2003 to go after predatory lenders making these loans.
In short, you are just making stuff up and repeating Republican talking points with no evidence to back them up whatever. This is troll behavior.
Why don’t you push that tired bullshit over at townhall instead of here? If you wish to contribute something of value to the discussion, please do so, but I implore you to come up with something other than trite Republiclown talking points. We’ve all heard them ad nauseum, repeating them constantly will not lend them any credibility.