Really, now..is THIS the best the Senate Republicans can do? Roll out these five tiresome fellows to stand in front of the microphones to pontificate such gems as “It’s all been said already” (from the GOP’s new statesman, John Thune of South Dakota).
It is truly a measure of how intellectually (much less morally) bankrupt the GOP is that their messages from this ‘epic battle’ are:
1) You wouldn’t let us play with you..
2) As long as the Republicans were in power, Gov’t spending was in the 20% range America had “a vital private sector”. This will cause ‘the Europeanization’ of America. Boogabooga.
3) Your plan won’t work;
4) NOW, we want there to be transparency (even though for the past 8 years, we beat you up, wouldn’t allow you in the clubhouse, told you nothing and hid all sorts of nasty stuff in legislation WE got passed). Now we will hold YOU to a higher standard.
5) You didn’t leave my amendment in and I’m ticked off.
Excuse me? This is the best you’ve got? This is the leadership of the Senate GOP?
McConnell’s assertion that this will cause us all to wake up, speak three different Romance Languages, like 70 types of cheese and give up drinking milk at every meal is laughable. We won’t even discuss the fact that there might even be some possible benefit to us by mimicking some of the lifestyle, cultural and political realities of Western Europe (national healthcare, anyone – the French and Italian systems are ranked quite highly).
The other item which borders on the delusional is his platform that as long as the GOP held the reins of power in the WH and Congress – the private sector boomed. I’d like him to say that to the hundreds of thousands of people whose jobs have been overseas’d during the last 25 years (before the 3.6 million lost theirs over the past 13 months) – because the Rethugs made it oh so easy to do so. What boomed was the concentration of wealth among the elites that bordered on the obscene and the evisceration and destruction of the middle class in this country. If one takes the position that the job of the US government is to feed the private industry beast to the point of morbid obesity, then McConnell does have a point, but if the job of the US government is to provide the best opportunities for the American People, then he’s nuts.
That amendment that Thune is so incredibly chuffed about contained variations on one musical theme: Tax cuts…tax cuts..and more tax cuts (cut first three bars of Beethoven’s 9th – da-da-da-duh). Seriously – the whizbang amendment that he thinks is the saving of the US economy consists of:
– Making Unemployment Insurance tax free;
– Tax cuts for small businesses and middle income earners;
– Tax cuts on companies ‘repatriating’ (I love that word) funds earned in foreign operations. His measure of success for this one is that when they did this temporarily in 2004…Oracle used their money … to buy up two other companies in California and Minnesota. I can’t find out which two companies those were, so I don’t have any idea if they still exist in their then-current form, have been shrunk, closed or jobs transferred. I do know from my own experience that companies do not buy their competitors or companies with complementary product lines to keep them open.
Message for Senator Thune and the rest of the GOP minnesingers:
Making Unemployment Insurance tax free does squat for people who lost their jobs more than 26 weeks ago – they are done. They don’t have any income. Also, UI isn’t taxed up front – people have to come up with the money at tax time in April – making it tax free for people who still don’t have a job or who have a job that pays them less than they had before does NOT help them or give them extra income. The other thing is – in case you have not noticed: there are a whole lot of states (and the number is growing) of states that have to borrow money for their UI Trust Funds. In some states there are caps on what can be paid out. In other words, there will be people on UI who won’t GET ANY BENEFIT. So, telling them that this is tax free is a pretty sad item. Grade on this one: Worthless.
Tax Cuts for Small Businesses and Middle Income Earners: Giving tax cuts to small business when what they need is credit so that they can buy, sell, etc. is another worthless gesture. Middle Income Earners: see Tax Free Unemployment Insurance above. Not taking something away is NOT equal to giving someone something. Not charging people as much in income taxes does not help them get or keep a job. Smell the halupkis, guys – you want the economy to start rolling – people have to have jobs with decent incomes – then they can not only pay their taxes, they can pay their bills and start buying stuff again.
Tax cuts for companies ‘repatriating’ money – this is all based on an article written by a guy named George Sinai, who claims that there is a trillion dollars locked up overseas that companies COULD use for worker training, energy efficiency, and R&D. All of those items are wonderful business activities which should have been going on for years and years and years. As I said before…in 2004 they did this and the best example they could use was Oracle’s buying up two other companies. That was not worker training, or hiring, or R&D. That was asset acquisition – just like the banks started to do and want to do with the money they got in the ‘chicken little/the sky is falling’ gig from last fall from Henry Paulsen.
So, frankly, this is merely another example of Rethug whining – and frankly, for all their yelling and jumping up and down about being ‘the party of ideas’ and so on, they don’t have any other than ‘just say no’ and ‘tax cuts that don’t cost us anything.’
And those two ideas are not going to go anywhere…



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Digg is open, folks.
Dugg
first paragraph, “John Thunes” should read “John Thune,” there’s only one of him
same thing for subsequent “Thunes” references
Mercifully.
indeed.
Hi Toby…… those two Jon/John’s from Arizona are becoming quite a pair…. of WATB…
Well, the Two Johns are merely prime examples of basically what the GOP has to offer now that they are now not ‘on top’.
checking in during my 2nd shift coffee-break, what a snarkily truthful diary. Toby, you RAWK.
Thanks to decades of Rethug policies, altho in a skilled profession, i make 1, yes ONE dollar more than i did in 1988. Outsourcing, union-busting, insurance companies run amuck, gahhhh!
Off to digg before i head back to work.
ooops, preview is my friend. That ONE should say $1 more per hour
Hello Pups,
I have been wandering in the site since Colbert finished. I’m not sure where I’m commenting…Aunt Toby, wonderful as always!
Hi, Christine.
This is where we’re supposed to be, as near as I can tell. Not many commenters here, though…
Thanks so much, I guess the lack of commenters confused me — where is everyone?
And my apologies for not being here (and the John Thunes) – to be blunt, I did not know this was going upstairs — I did…and went to sleep. :(
Hi Chris. You’re right here.
Hiya newton! What a day here in not snowy Cleveland. 58 degrees and piles of black snow finally melting. Unfortunately floods in the west. We are thrilled to see people walking!
And of course Margot was getting a tan elsewhere in OH…
Is everyone on alert with the flooding? I know some folks were hurt or killed in the first days.
government spending…oooohhh, scary!
becoming more like Europe…ooohhhh, verrrry scary!
Hadn’t seen this, Toby.
Somebody missed their cookies and milk before nap time, and someone has to pay!
Bunch of sore losers !!
The American public rejected the ideas of the past 25 years when they voted for Obama.!
The Rethugs are in denial ,they are no longer the party in power and are on the outside looking in !!
True – but when I listened closely to McConnell – his delusion that somehow ‘Happy Days Are Here Again’ was playing all over the US for the past 25 years is nutso. Yes, during the Clinton Admin, the high tech sector did well (and yes, there was that thing..you know, the innertubez), but that hid the rest of the mess. Microsoft, IBM et al. moved hundreds of thousands of jobs overseas. Most of those folks have never been able to find jobs in their industry or at the same pay they had.
For a pack of assholes that whines incessently about the “elites”, the only thing they ever offer is tax relief to the elites.
Trickle down dipshits.
-G
Why should we even listen to these people,they created this mess !!
we listen to them to confirm that we are doing something right.
I must say, with all the criticism of Obama’s stimulus plan that I have heard from the left, it does reassure me to see how much the Repugs are against it…
the left complains about what isn’t in the bill !
the right complains about what is !
Is anybody happy with this bill ?
it’s a start
I’ll have to see the compromise bill before I make up my mind ,the Senate cut some good stuff from this bill before it passed
but that is setting the bar way too low !!
if we were all sitting in a big circle singing “Kumbayah” with them, I think I would be a little worried about what we were agreeing to…
saying we are doing better than the repugs isn’t saying much
I get your point
Maybe not, but when the republics are upset about a particular piece of legislation it can’t be all bad IMO.
no, it isn’t. but I’m saying more than that. ALL the repugs wanted was tax cuts for the rich. I was sorry to see the Democrats grant such large concessions in that direction, especially since it didn’t buy many R votes. But there is more than tax cuts in the bill. It does contain several hundred billion dollars of actual stimulus spending. Not nearly enough, maybe…but far better than what most of the the repugs would ever agree to.
yup if these guys are upset there is something there !!
Kyl is a blowhard
(listening to the YouTube, can you tell?)
“Democrat Congress”…hey buddy, got any grammer?
“transparency”…oh, yeah, you mean, like we had for the last 8 years?
“new programs”…(you mean, “change”?)…ooohhh, so so scary!
Yep that is my senator……. Mr I want to kill habeus Corpus …… Ya know he never comes home to AZ except when it is election year…….
and to collect during bribery season?
No, not everyone is on alert. Weather here tonight is fine. Margot, probably fine as well.
Feeling confused about the tense economic goings on… and my parents are old.
Why oh why doesn’t someone call them on their hypocrisy? It’s really astounding. I dont’ want a republic anywhere near any policy that effects America in any way shape form or fashion. They are a party of losers, their policy has brought America to the brink of ruin. I’m still not convinced it wasn’t on purpose.
the voice of the majority is a whisper
while the voice of the minority is a shout
Well, there are a whole lot of people looking at what they are doing right now and thinking that this is the Coup de Grace (if I’ve got that right) that they always planned for. They want the whole thing to fail – they feel it will bring down all the government entities – it’s the ‘drowning in the bathtub’ that Norquist always wanted.
Actually they want no part of any bill, but with folks hurting and Dems in charge, they can’t sit it out.
If they plunder a chance at a successful bill by loading it up with tax cuts (but not 100% tax cuts) and it fails, they want to be able to say that 42% tax cuts was never enough, but it’s all they could bargain for with the “Most Liberal Administration in History™.”
The Republicans can only profit if the stim fails, or creates a slower decline to the inevitable bottom. If it succeeds, they lose everything.
watching these guys on teevee today just made me sick,clinging to their tired old BS!
I hear you. Seriously considering sports talk radio in the day time. Equally mindless, but numbing and inconsequential. I could use some of that.
late late nite up at the mothership
A little O/T, but one of the big complaints about the tarp/stimulus is the loss to investors and bond holders if the banks fail. In particular, that many of us, in our 401K’s will effectively get wipe out, as our mutual retirement accts, etc., were part of those “investors”.
So why not cover all the stock and bond holders who are 401K accts as part of the tarp (or whatever) and let the rest (speculators, CDS, etc) go belly up. That way, we get the chance to get a little benefit for once.
Also, Obama could push for letting people get to what is left of their 401 without penalty (maybe 50 or 100K limit). It would be free money (no outlay of cash from gov., just less taxes – the repubs will love it.)
Food for thought.
Our 401K lost 6 years of savings in 3 days. After day one we were desperately trying to get the money out. By the time we finally were successful two days later we were devastated.
As an extension of Mitch’s European Dream, how about if Texas were to become a kind of post-war/pre-perestroiko & pre-glasnost Germany. It could be split into halves with an east and west Dallas/Ft. Worth as it’s capitol. The “Wall” could be I35E. That way, at some point in the future (ala Francis Gary Powers of U2 fame), George Bush could be traded for Harry Reid at a mock Brandenberg Gate in the Trinity River Greenbelt park. Bush would of course need to be whisked off to Austin by the CIA and DOD. They would want to debrief him on this 8 years as a hostage of Dick Cheney.
OK..who plays Bush in the movie?
If Kyl et al are only focused on 2010, they are taking a huge chance that the American public is willing to wait that long for the GOP version of economic stimulus. This is NOT 1993.
McCain in particular seems to be in the grip of clinical hysteria.