I’ve been live-blogging the storm from my blog all weekend and I have to say that Irene has been behaving pretty much the way I thought she would for us here in Upstate New York: lots of rain and wind starting last night once the eye of the storm got to the Delmarva Peninsula. We’ve all ready lost our power once this morning. The winds have been pretty steady in the 5-10 mph range, with gusts (and one of those gusts probably took down a pole or tree which caused the loss of power). And lots…and lots…of rain. (By the way, the photo at the top was taken this morning in Flatbush, Brooklyn, New York of a London Plane tree that, between the wind and the sodden ground, went right over despite being held down by the cement sidewalk)
We lost the power for just one hour and I had two inches of water in the basement, pronto. Once the electricity came on again, the pump made a pretty quick job of moving the water off the floor. Let’s see now — that floor is about 300 square feet and there is 7.5 gallons in a cubic foot of water, so the pump moved about 375 gallons of water out in about 20 minutes. Not bad and a whole lot better than what we usually get down there (18″ deep and damaged appliances).
Lessons learned so far:
First, it’s a really good idea to test out any new emergency equipment to make sure a) you know how it works, b) you know how to make it run, and c) you know how to make it do what you want it to do without killing yourself or anyone else. The DH and our son were grappling with a brand new generator for almost an hour before they figured out that they needed to fiddle with the choke.
Second, it’s also a really good idea to make a fast tour of the outside of your house BEFORE such a storm hits. Once we lost power, I got the uncontrollable urge to fill up another bucket for flushing toilets (you can tell that there are certain functions that Aunt Toby is, ahem, a little obsessed with), and I got the idea to run outside with another bucket and put it under a downspout. Well, the extensions on the bottoms of the downspouts are SCREWED on so that did not work until I rounded the corner and found a downspout with NO extension on it whatsoever. So the water from the gutters on that side of the house were just gushing down around the foundation. Yummy. I stuck the bucket under there and had five gallons of water in less than 5 minutes. Needless to say, a downspout extension is going on the hardware store list for purchase next week because we’re looking at another named hurricane developing by Labor Day Weekend.
Yep – from the same nursery as Irene came from, José is emerging. There seem to be two possible scenarios with this – first, it follows Irene and comes right to the eastern seaboard and runs right up and into New England, or second, it starts its northern route before it gets to the coast.
I know a lot of people are feeling a certain level of disappointment with how government and weather agencies have handled this in terms of what they consider evacuations being ordered too early, public transport being shut down and so on.
For all of the ‘this was only a Cat 1 – no big deal’ talk out there, I have to tell you that even up here, I suspected that it was not going to be one of those ‘pitching tractor trailers through warehouse walls’ sort of storms. It was always going to be a huge rainmaker (which it has been), which would cause flooding and power outage issues, which are bad enough. Flooding all by itself can cause death and huge amounts of destruction, even without any extras in terms of wind. We had a period of 2-3 days of rain in Upstate NY in 2006 which caused the Chenango, Susquehanna and Delaware rivers to flood and caused huge amounts of destruction to property. Houses were literally lifted off their foundations and were floating down the Susquehanna. We were cleaning up that mess for months. And that was, as I recall, only 4-6 inches of rain. We’re getting a lot more than that up here and I know down in the Mid-Atlantic, they are saying those folks already have gotten 12″ plus.
Nothing to sniff at.
(photo courtesy of Flatbush Gardener)




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Sounds like you got through this one okay, anyway, and glad to hear it. Would love Jose to come out here to TX, but fear that with the record heat of water in the Gulf of Mexico, that might be more disaster than we can handle.
Toby, people tend to say it’s just rain but flooding is no joke. So glad you are okay and get that downspout fixed!
Thanks for the update…I have been wondering how it looks. I welcome your support for the PTB….someone has to make decisions, and no one can see the future. Also this stuff involves a tough call. Good luck to you and getting back to normal, whatever that is…..
Glad you’re OK, Aunt Toby!
Thanks for the update.
Someone else made a similar comment about the “only a Cat 1″ trope. Thanks for the added explanation.
Fire purifies, water putrefies. That’s what I have seen.
Water damage is bad, and water is so dangerous in massive amounts. I wish everyone the best.
Thanks for this diary. I’m very glad you didn’t suffer too greatly and are better self-educated for it to boot. As a former long-time Gulf Coaster and with a NOLA native spouse, to me your assessment of “nothing to sniff at” makes perfect sense. Like you said, even a Cat 1 can hurt badly depending on the local conditions and circumstances. So Irene turned out for the most part (not forgetting the deaths and damage it did cause) to be an East Coast drill. Great! The simplest lesson is to pay attention to what’s coming at you and then get the hell out and take as many people and animals with you as you head for higher, drier land.
PS: there has to be a way to put a ‘spigot’ in a handy downspout to fill buckets as you describe. Could be a huge seller in hurricane/tropical storm country!
My big worry is that a lot of people have not gotten the ‘no big deal – I’m ticked off that so much fuss was made’ message into their heads and the next time the weather folks make a fuss, they are going to say to themselves “this is another total over-reaction; I’m not moving.” And we know from past events what happens to that.
FD – no kidding! OK, all you handy-people hardware store aficionados out there — let’s see how this works. Separate elbow unit? Inquiring minds and all that.
OK – I’ve found this one — not exactly a spigot, but in a tropical storm situation, I’m not sure I’d be really picky. http://www.egutter.com/GUTTER-GUARDS-AND-LEAF-GUARDS/The-Water-Saver/Water-Saver-Alum-White-2-x-3
I love this one but the price makes me blanch. The only part I can’t think of a workaround for is the diverter. Ideas, people!! http://www.downspoutdiverters.com/product_rain_barrels_complete_rainstation_60gal_dd.php
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Dear Mr. Howard Dean:
If you do not simply ask Mr. Obama to simply walk away,
then you are a fool, a bad doctor, or a fraud.
Hiya Toby,
Glad to hear you got thru it OK.
Brief moment of panic when I got up at 8a, checked around the house, found water coming into basement and sump pump on the fritz. For some reason, there’s some slow drainage in the sump pump reservoir, so once the storm surge slackened, it seems able to keep up with the new water (rising water table where my basment floor isn’t paves, not foundation leakage). Margaret suggested a combo of sump pump and stirrup pump, if sump pump goes on the fritz or electricity goes out. (Ours has been on continuously.) Stirrup pump is apparently a hand pump that works if alternative drainage, in my case my basement sink which is right next to the sump pump reservoir, is close enough to pump the water into.
Redone driveway with drain on uphill side meant I had no use for sump pump until today, and it just never occurred to me that it might not still work.
I lucked out though, with no damage done.
I did lose 2 black locusts in a row of 5 by the road that I had been nurturing for about 15 years. They were maybe 30′ high with 3″ diameter trunks. Blew right over.
eCAHN – oh wow. I remember that row of trees by the road by your house. Glad you are safe – actually, I’m going to start looking for a stirrup pump as well – probably something very useful to have around in any case.
Rain slowing down here in central NY. It was fierce earlier. No damage, though. Had to pump some water out of the pool but that was the extent of our problems.
Yeah.
You can imagine how red faced I am that I didn’t check my sump pump.
I need to make a check list. I also never thought to have a paper list of telephone #s of people I can call for help until some new friends last night emailed me their cell phone numbers. I already had them, but only on the computer. Duh, whoda thunk you’d need a paper list of telephone numbers. (I got a new cell phone, I have become a luddite, so I haven’t gotten out the book to figure out how to add phone numbers to the directory in the phone.)
Glad to hear you came thru it safely & dryly.
The only reason we don’t have to rest the sump is that we have so much hydrostatic pressure under our house that our sump pump runs basically all the time. The generator was a whole different deal – we’d just bought it and it was literally still all strapped up in the box. I think we said to each other at least twice before the storm hit, “You know, we really should get that generator out and get it filled and fired up so that we know it works and how to get it all connected and all that.” Needless to say, ahem, other things got into the way. So, I think the ‘fire up the generator’ thing definitely gets put on the list, as does also a ‘hand cranked radio that will also recharge cell phones’.
Just type in the number and the phone will probably give you the option to add a new contact.
hi echan
ttbook.org this am had “bees”
scroll down to 1st book; also left link end of talking heads
kj
I can get to the new contact entry page. What I can’t figure out is how to add the right alpha characters from a numeric keyboard, like if I want b or c instead of a.
We have not lost the electricity here for a long time, but they have absolutely butchered the trees near the power lines. Which is another tsoris. Last time it happened, maybe after the rains of June 2010, it was a large tree far back from the power line that fell on it bc its roots didn’t hold in super soaked ground. Could still have a lot of trees that topple for the same reason now.
I actually just saw a small patch of blue sky. Hooray!
After my first couple of hurricanes in Florida, I suffered that “no big deal” mentality. Then Kate hit, and it was terrifying – the wind and the rain. We had downed trees and powerlines, no electricity for almost a week, a 7am-7pm curfew, and a building moratorium on some islands for five years (which I liked) because of the beach erosion. Looking back, we were very lucky and little scathed by Kate in comparison to Hugo, Andrew, and Katrina, but I wouldn’t risk it now.
One of our houseguests here in Atlanta who left the coast at the last minute during Katrina came home to find holes in his ceiling that his furniture had punched during the storm surge. One of his neighbors they didn’t find until days later. As disturbing as the Katrina images are, I wish they’d show the people on their rooftops calling for help and spelling out SOS when they issue future hurricane warnings.
Thanks. I saw the movie about a month or two ago. It is very good.
eCAHN @9:57am
you have to click fast but a “b” would be 2,2 – a “c” is 2,2,2
and the star key is the shift key for Caps, the # is for spaces.
what model phone is it?
(I must say I’m somewhat heartened to know I wasn’t the only person this was not instinctual for)
Samsung.
I can’t click fast.
Also the menus are set up in the most inconvenient way. So I have to go thru several before I get to list of incoming & outgoing calls, whereas on the old phone it was one click. I have these pieces of programmed obsolescence electronic pieces of shit.
The cap where my charger plugs in is so flimsy it’s going to fall off quickly, no matter how careful I am.
Gah.
/rant
she says shaking her fist at a cloud :)
(we are the geezers now)
Got that right. DFG for Dirty F’n Geezers.
Toby,
thank you for helping us through the storm.
I’m glad she didn’t live up to her hype, I just hope the next time people aren’t tired of “Wolf!” I’m delighted seaglass appeared on the other side altho I think he was crazy with that storm path to stay where he did.
You just can’t know til after it’s over how it’s going to turn out (she says less gracefully than Yogi Bera would have)
One storm I thought about was Galveston 1900. From what I’ve learned (via the History channel), the weatherman toughed it out and in doing so, 8000 people died. If only he hadn’t been determined that it couldn’t happen there.
And then there’s a local favorite, Agnes – which was “only” a tropical storm by the time it got here, and we are inland, but the flooding was catastrophic.
Thank goodness this was a not a large scale catastrophe, and may we take good care the next time.
Due to weather issues here in Arizona, I greatly appreciate the 24/7 availability of TWC online as well as on the tv, and all the local coverage – for families and the locals affected.
However, since the storms’ danger was downgraded to that of a normal tropical storm rather quickly I thought it ridiculous overkill for some channels to stay on the non-breaking “BREAKING NEWS!!” theme when it should have reverted to other more valuable programming.
eCAHN, you usually hit that particular number key 2 or 3 times, then wait until the little cursor moves forward and hit the next number. So for example if you want b you hit the 2 twice, if you want c hit it 3 times.
Get an iPhone!!
The likes of Bloombito would do far more public service by keeping their orders and suggestions in the same proportion as the actual danger, which in the case of this storm should have clearly been recognized as more like, “Have some place safe to be for a day or so” than “write your name and ss# on this paper and yourself so we can call them when you die.”
Or by reminding tenants, homeowners, and landlords of precautions like the ones in this post —it probably takes a really long, sleepless night or a series of them for most people to start wondering about the sump pump. And as for the transit, well, I hope the MTA will be forthcoming, because they should have to answer some questions.
ElBloombito.
It’s been a tough day in NY State
http://www.watershedpost.com/tags/hurricane-irene