Economist Jeff Madrick, director of policy research at The New School’s Bernard Schwartz Center for Economic Policy Analysis, is among several key speakers at next week’s Building the New Economy conference here in Washington, D.C. AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and United Steelworkers President Leo Gerard also are among keynote speakers. Here, Madrick shares with us why government involvement in the economy is essential to ensure a robust, successful nation.
America had been living a free-market myth for a generation until the credit crisis of 2008 and 2009 descended on the nation–and the world. One expression of that myth, found frequently on the editorial pages of the popular media, was that government does not grow economies, business does. In other words, government, don’t meddle where you’re not needed. Politicians are even easier to belittle than government itself.
I have spent much of my professional life making the opposite point. Government does indeed grow economies. It creates jobs and it produces prosperity. When politicians make correct decisions, they indeed make economies grow. There is no example of a major rich nation in the world whose government does not:
- Educate its children and teenagers.
- Build its roads, bridges, superhighways and airports.
- Establish regulatory bodies to minimize financial busts.
- Develop sanitation and water systems and health care standards.
- Support those who are temporarily unemployed.
- Provide a public pension to the elderly and a subsidy to the poor.
This is the call of big government. Label it proportional government if the words “big government” bother you. It is people getting together to do what they believe they must. And, yes, this is what good politicians do. Let’s call it like it is.
As economies grow larger, societies more populous, scientific and social knowledge deeper, and interconnections more complex, government grows as well–at least in societies that succeed. And when government works as it should, it is also typically the leading agent of change. As economies progress, societies learn more, and expectations rise, government’s main purpose is to manage, foster and adapt to this change. It is a profound task.
Our own government has a history of managing and adapting, often radically, to change, looking ahead, not backward. It did so in the face of influential forces, fearing the future and aiming to protect established interests, which invariably opposed new obligations for government: financing the canals in the 1820s, building free primary schools starting in the 1830s and high schools in the late 1800s. In the early 1900s, our government developed government-built sanitation and water systems that made the cities possible; created a central bank to mitigate the disruption of boom-and-bust cycles and regulate unstable financial markets; and enforced labor rights such as hours worked, job safety and a minimum wage.
All myths are by definition simplistic. The one that became entrenched in the late 1970s and early 1980s had as its core claim that government’s presence was usually an impediment to prosperity and that the best course for the U.S. economy was to reduce aggressively government’s size and reach. So popular was this destructive notion that the end of the “era of big government” was announced proudly in 1996 by a Democratic president, Bill Clinton.
In the past 30 years, government, with a few exceptions, did not adequately sustain and nurture society or help it adapt to change. Government invested less in America, it regulated less, and it led less. It was a lost generation.
The financial crisis occurred because of this widespread disdain for and distrust of government. Under ideological pressure to which both political parties subscribed and under the influence of powerful vested interests, government stepped back and gave financial markets largely free rein. Very risky investments were made with enormous levels of debt–the failure of one firm could take down an entire industry. Common sense was discarded and new, highfalutin theories about the rationality and efficiency of markets dominated thinking at the best universities, the halls of Congress and the boardroom of the nation’s central bank. Always, the argument was the financial community understood risk better than any government could.
When you comb the serious academic evidence about how and why economies grow, you will find that no case can be made that big government or even high taxes impede economic growth over time. History offers no lesson about the values of minimal government. There has never been a laissez-faire modern economy. To the contrary, the evidence shows that government typically contributed vitally to growth. As odd as it is to have to say this, without effective government, America would be poor today.
The lost faith in government has detrimentally affected almost all aspects of life in America in the past generation: health care, education, retirement security, the quality and durability of jobs, family time available to raise children, rising prison populations and the nation’s wealth itself.
Government is not always good. It requires vigilance and weeding. But it also requires the confidence and understanding of its people. These it must earn, but the people in turn also must learn their own history, free of ideological cant and petty anger.
The major question today is whether the deep setbacks caused by the credit crisis will awaken the nation to the need to revitalize government again. If America returns to the norms of the past 30 years, the nation will not succeed.



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Very astute analysis, and I would throw in a further factor that is standing against public understanding of the role government needs to play in growing our economy; the media. Our business press caters to the sponsors it depends on for financial backing, and what is reports is that our economy depends on welfare for business/corporations. That has been proved dismally, irremediably, wrong.
Government spending can never lead us out of a recession. This is especially true when this spending is funded by turning on the printing presses and letting them print billions of inflated dollars.
Thanks Tula. I’m with Ruth, very astute.
It’s hard to brag about the Governement growing the economy, when they can’t get the figures right.
If you discount what the Government spent, that is debt and deficits, from the GDP, you will find it lost bog time.
The so-called recovery act, was mostly a bailout for the States. It saved jobs that the States would have cut, only because the States were not fiscally responsable to start with.
The truth is they have done very little to create jobs, or give the private sector reasons to create jobs.
Just like in the past they are relying on Economists, the same people who were up to their ears in the problems of our economy to fix it. These people have no idea what it takes to create jobs, or what is needed to put the country back to work.
If you want to fix the GDP, fix the underlying problem and that is demand. So that people and businesses have the need for people to work to fill the demand.
And this is why Arnold Schwarzenegger’s legacy will be that he killed the golden state.
It was insanity to REDUCE the pay of state workers and throw the system of state services into disarray.
But that’s what you get when people with slavemaster mentality are running things.
He had little choice. Although CA was going broke he couldn’t fire unnecessary government workers (most of them) due to contracts the state foolishly entered into years ago with the unions.
Arnold had lots of choices. The first one would have been not to run for an office which he knew nothing about. What he has done to my state is disgraceful. And his budget cuts, as usual, are against the least of us – and they can’t fight back. The poor, the elderly, etc. He is ignorant and pompous.
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Arnold should be in prison.
As should Susan Collins, who stripped state aid from the stimulus, creating fifty little Hoovers, one in every state capitol, cutting spending and jobs just when both were needed to fuel a recovery.
We’re in 1936, folks, the deficit hawks are circling. More spending is the solution as more people lose their jobs and their homes, but all you hear is the wailing about Social Security recipients getting an “undeserved” $250 check next year.
Excellent post, Tula. Thanks.
Please provide links to buttress your POV.
Dude needs to change his name to strawman.
Well, there are economists and there are economists. Are Krugman & Stiglitz, IYO, in the same basket as Summers, Geithner, Bernanke?
Shhh. I’m on the case.
Sorta like Keynes and Friedman in the same basket. I saw a piece recently that Summers is beginning to backpedal on his efficient free market ideology. A little late for somebody who’s supposed to be so smart.
I gave 2 X chromosomes, so NO luv for Summers here. Whadda jerk. I have my biggest enmity for the too-little-too-late crowd.
“When you comb the serious academic evidence about how and why economies grow, you will find that no case can be made that big government or even high taxes impede economic growth over time.”
The Laffer Curve was used to show for centuries that higher taxes do hurt economies. More pointedly, with in reason a lower tax rate actually leads to higher tax revenue from the economic growth that results.
I once (1998?) had an interaction with Summers at an economist convention. During the Clinton years, after some session at a meeting, I paused to ask him a Q. He was very polite for a mysogynist, addressed my by name (on my badge) and was quite forthcoming. Fooled me until 2007.
So why do several W. European economies have much higher standards of living and better medical outcomes than the U.S.?
Is Bennie feeling the heat? Bernanke said Congress should make sure that we taxpayers don’t bear the cost of shutting down financial institutions. Seems he thinks those institutions should bear the cost. Wow.
Tula Connell, my hat’s off to you. Excellent article.
Perfectly polite Qs seem to have cleared the trolls.
The Laffer Curve = Hahaha, the joke’s on us.
Yes! These guys were just as happy to tell us before the crash how great we were doing, and how wonderful our systems were.
Not one was out there saying if we keep this up all hell will break loose.
Now they have all these great ideas on how to fix things, or things we should have done, but won’t take the credit for their past views.
There are no good economists, they learn from books about times past, that have no relationship with todays world. Dirivatives were even in those books, along with many of the things that Led to our problems. They always talk of GDP. Well it was great right up to the bust. GDP is the History of last months and years, it is not a predictor for the future. None of them have any real knowledge that pertains to the real world.
We whould be better off if we could exicute all of them, but at least we should sHut them up or banish them.
Well the medical outcomes can come from a variety of combining reasons. A government run program increases availability. Culture of people can have effects on health. Lifestyle as far as what a fulfilled life constitutes such as average hours worked a week, vacation time, leisure activities. Standard of Living is also very hard to define. Americans love to buy the newest phones, and homes, and cars and well you get it and many can’t afford or could be in a financially better place if they didn’t cater to impulse spending. Much of this doesn’t take into account for economic impact for the country. Another glaring piece of info I never see mentioned is US’s sheer size compared to many other countries. The countries of Europe and Japan are much smaller and it is much easier to technolgically advance all their land and put in high speed rail just for the fact that they are more densely populated and have less area to do the work in which is cheeper.
Don’t you think the media might have blown this up out of proportion a little bit. Strong economies have booms and busts to varying extents. This one was larger but not as “end-of-the-world” as many made it out to be. That Economic Recovery package has supposedly had it’s biggest impact that it will have. Unemployment still is 10% when it wasn’t to go over 8%. I don’t think that was a good way to spend $800 billion but that’s just me. I bought my house at the peak at the end of 2006 and it is still a great value and I also put a lot of money into it improving it. I didn’t care if the “value” went up or down in the short term because I bought it without the need to sell it in a pinch. Bought it for much less than a bank would have given me a loan for and even though the value stagnated I could care less it was still a stellar investment.
The economy can and should only grow to match the population size. Unending growth of anything is a nonsense and totally stoooooopid idea.
We need a sustainable economy. Capitalism cannot be a sustainable economy.
The government IS the people in a democracy. In an oligarchy it’s the few with the power.
We have an oligarchy with a facade of a democracy. It’s kabuki.
The money changers run the government – make the laws for the little people.
why? we outgrew the economy for the population. The economy stalled as everything resets itself. Capitalism isn’t unfettered growth. An economy can be sustained by government but at a great cost. I don’t want to give up the growth and potential and advancement that Capitalism provides.
— John F. Kennedy
And being a real liberal, I’ll take Kennedy over that B actor any day.
Always appropriate when discussing government not producing anything.
Roads, education, medicine, sanitation, order…
The next one will be much worse, because we have no way to recover from this one.
In order to recover we need something to recover to, and that is not just the stock market being up.
We need business and industry to be needed and that calls for demand. Demand is a hard thing to come by when the country isn’t working.
It is a global economy now. Bernake was dead on when he said China has to develop faster so their middle class can bring a presence of Demand to the world stage in a meaningful way. He is definitely not always on but on this I think he was. Also we were never supposed to come out of the great depression or the Japanese out of their mess or the late 70′s early 80′s for the Us as well. It will not turn around right away but it has been blown out of proportion. The US lived pretty high for a good 10 – 15 years here and yes this is a big bump but I still think we are doing pretty good. I also see us falling behind countries like china to an extent because they have tons of money and are buying assets we are buying building debts and calling thinks “investments” when they are everything but.
The issue is never big government or little government. The size of government does not divide liberals and conservatives, or Democrats and Republicans. For the most part, those who espouse laissez faire seek to reduce the role of government in helping either poor people, the middle class or both.
So I do not like the label big or proportional. It boils down to government in the interests of the few or all of us. Free market rhetoric is largely about legitimating government for the few.
Son wake up and smell the roses.
You bought the bullshit about a global economy. The globalists have sold this country out, and you can’t see it.
We basically made the global economy, and now it’s eating us for lunch with our money.
China is the best example, we tried to use them as slave labor, and they were smarter than us, so we are buying their junk while they laugh at us.
We not only found and began using oil, but developed all it’s uses today, and everybody but us are making money off it, and we are at their mercy.
Most of the technology in the world came from here, yet it’s benefiting the world, and we buy that technology back from them because they can make the products cheaper.
We started the automobile revolution, and now can hardly keep making our own cars.
We are not doing well, because we don’t make anything here anymore. So we have little to give to the world. We are their suckers because they use us to sell everything they make to, while they buy less from us.
Our Government which is made up of a bunch of people who no more understand the world economy than a flea, have set trade policy.
What you think of doing pretty good is because the country is overspent like on a world credit card and is living high on that credit. Like with a credit card you have to pay it back with interest, and we have no job anymore to pay it back.
It is only a matter of time before our fall, and it won’t be a couple thousand points in the stock market, we will be the next Rome, and our HUNS will be the world invading and taking us over.
All because we think were great, and doing well.
The problem is not that we don’t have manufacturing jobs here anymore. That was always the plan as people woke up and realized what other countries were capable of. We didn’t get screwed we got lazy and complacent. If we still developed all these big ideas that you spoke of we would still have the jobs but we don’t others from around the world have more drive and passion. We sat on our successes and didn’t realize what was just around the bend.
Imagine this a brilliant chef at the best restaurant in the area has a younger understudy. This brilliant chef teaches this understudy everything he knows. After a couple years the understudy moves on finds and investor and starts his own restaurant. The US is the first chef and china is the understudy. This is exactly how it should have gone for the long term prosperity of the world. The only spot for variance is what the Brilliant chef does now. The brilliant chef as with anything needs to see that life is a continuous quest for learning and advancement. This chef can never be overcome or at least not by much no matter how much he shares because with effort he can always stay ahead or close. The US needs to foster developments and advancements not worry so much about regulating fairness just do the work that makes the US the leader in the first place. There is never time to stop or slow down progress cause when you are at the top someone is always gunning for your spot.
The problem, is we don’t have any manufacturing jobs here anymore, because they are somewhere else. They are somewhere else, not because as you say our young chefs went to China, but because our big businesses because of our stupidity on trade laws, went to China to use them to make cheaper goods to sell back to us. They and the Chinese made trillions, at the expense of ours and their country.
Our big Corporations, and our Government didn’t do this to help the world, the did it to benefit big businesses and money at our expense.
You must have never had anything to do with business, because you always have to stay ahead of your competition, or they will eat you for lunch. You don’t deliver free food supplies to your competitors restaurant, to help him out. Therefore helping him to eat you for lunch.
The US needs to worry about itself first, and the world second. The world looks at us as something they can use, and we keep asking them how we can help them do it.
When someone is gunning for your spot you shoot the bastard, don’t step aside and say you first.
Actually I understand how business works which is why I have the views I do and use them to my advantage. You are right the our government didn’t do anything to help the world!!! It IS all about money!!! That is obvious all over the world which is why smart businesses, countries, governments, and most importantly individuals must understand this and use it to there advantage.
Yes the countries of the world use us as a doormat many times but being the country we were for so many years we put ourselves in that position and since it isn’t their money politicians don’t know how to say no when we have to money to help. A broke man does not have the ability to help another broke man financially!!!! Businesses would have gone to other countries and places where it is cheaper to produces their products regardless. It happens between all the states all the time!
When someone is gunning for you spot or your customers, you say go right ahead, try me. If you truly deserve what you have and are that good you will have the ability to come out on top because you are better.
Staying with restaurants. Look at McDonalds. They spend years developing products that work, spending gobs of money aligning suppliers, fitting it in their product lineup, testing and re-testing, market survey after market survey and they continue to grow and expand all over the country and even the world. They copied the whopper. Then they can with better shakes. Then they came with better coffee and the like. Then with premium chicken sandwich lines. Now their newest was the thickburger style hamburgers. They successfully took on Burger King, Hardees, and Starbucks. They work tirelessly not only to make what they have better but more relevant to take market share away from other competitors. Other companies try and they do not flinch when their items take 2-3 years longer to come out because when they do it is done right and WILL be effective. This is the hard work that ALL Americans need to put in if we desire to stay in a prominent position in the world that came easier to US in the past. Our greatness will only hold true if we earn it and deserve it and fight every single day for it.
Perhaps you can enighten us all and walk us through how a contracted economy will begin to grow, in which there is insufficient demand for goods and where there is no alternative source of capital than government to spur demand, either from banks being unwilling to lend or because private savings from accumulated debt impede consumption of goods.
Add also the high unemployment rate which further reduces demand for goods and firther puts a strain on the treasury.
Please explain to us also how it is that the country came to fall into such heavy debt if not by the transfer of enorrmous wealth through tax reduction for higher brackets which capital was then used in unproductive ways, while at the same time increasing government outlays for defense as, occured during the years when government was demonized and unencumbered private markets were given sway. This period being the stewardship of the economy by Reagan and Bush, both sycophants for the unencumbered markets dogma.
It is the height of idiocy for anyone to continue to maintain at this time especially when the financial system through no goverment oversight and through an incredibly stupid self serving conviction that markets work best when left alone, government is not essential in guiding economic activity, during times of recession or any other time.
The time of the highest economic growth were the 50s and 60s when taxes for the highest brackets hovered over 60% and government spending and stipends for jobs and education was the highest its ever been.
So please give us all an explanation of your monumentally deluded notion that at any time in this country’s long history the government hasn’t needed to intevene to overcome the devastating effects of free market caused economic recessions.
My friend, you can continue to make burgers and fries till you corner the martket single handed. You can see yourself as Nietzche’s superman standing all alone among the fittest.
While the rest of us look at you with bemusement and laughter. What a poor deluded type this guy. To imagine that all alone through his efforts he taught himself how to read at home, which he built all alone and hoed his food and cared for himself and never had to depend on the innovation in industry, biology and high tech that he did not himself perfect and come up with, through nary a little nudge from the incompetent intrusive government which after all was only instrumental in devising and facilitating all these eadvances.
Maybe the NIH along with every government supported university laboratory grant don’t come up with any useful basic science discoveries, that couldn’t be replicated at our friends at the nearest McDonals. And maybe the aviation and agribusiness, auto and any other industry you care to name stands all alone without the constant need for bailouts from the government.
We marvel at these weaklings whose main attribute is to bite the hand that feeds them and walk away believing they need for nothing since, they are entirely self sufficient. We stand in awe of their heroes that squander the earnings of others and turn around as supplicants for help.
They are legends of their own making and only in their own eyes. It is hard to know whether to humor them and laugh in ridicule or just to turn the volume down on them and turn to the business of acting to perfect a society based on reality.