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"Recently released FBI documents prove the existence of highly sensitive National Security and criminal investigations of “Turkish Activities” in Chicago prior to September 11, 2001. These documents add further support to many of the allegations that former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds has claimed, in public and in Congress, since 2002. The documents were released under a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request into an organization called the Turkish American Cultural Alliance (TACA), an organization repeatedly named by Ms. Edmonds as being complicit in the crimes that she became aware of when she was a translator at the FBI."
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A good whistle blower protection act would help cure a lot of America’s ills. Seymour Hersh said that he’d been contacted by people who were waiting until after Jan 20/09 to speak out. Sadly, it soon became apparent that Obama’s talk of transparency was talk and not action, so they could not safely give information. Sibel Edmonds is ignored except by a few around here. I’m adding the following because most will not click on your link to her site.
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“Boiling Frogs Post has invited Mr. Norman L. Eisen, Special Counsel to the President for Ethics and Government Reform, and Mr. Stephen M. Kohn, Executive Director of the National Whistleblowers Center, to publicly debate on the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act on Wednesday, March 24 at 1:30 p.m. The bill as proposed by the Senate (S. 372) has drawn mixed reviews from both sides of the political spectrum.
Mr. Eisen has been invited to discuss how the bill may affect and contradict the White House’s previously emphasized and publicized mission to increase transparency in government, and respond to criticisms that the Senate version of the bill repeals existing FBI whistleblower protections. Mr. Kohn is an attorney who represents whistleblowers, and he has been invited to explain how the legislation will impact cases for national security whistleblowers who face retaliation.”
Thanks BlueB though this makes me sad “I’m adding the following because most will not click on your link to her site.”
Says a lot.
It is very sad that so many so-called “progressives” are super fucking cowards. Rather than “Give me liberty or give me death” their motto seems to be “Give me liberty or give me soft fascism”. I have relatives who made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom but arm chair so-called “progressive” bloggers are afraid to even look at and address with words the corrupt rot that is Washington DC. Soon, they will have no freedom and will have only themselves to blame. A society will never prevail with so many layers of lies.
I just heard a pin drop!
Yeah, government is badly broken. It’s going to take more than protests to fix this. We desperately need to get good leadership into the Whitehouse. Until we can do that, we are stuck on the defensive.
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t get up off our butts and protest, it just means we are in for a long slog.
I download her podcasts, but haven’t visited her site for a while.
On Turkey, Israel is getting pissy with them, and I have to wonder if it’s the AIPAC Legislators that pushed the bill to recognize the Turkish-Aremenican genocide. Turkey is not letting the US push them around in regards to Iran. So its just a political irritant. The same lobbyists work for Israel, Turkey, and Armenia. There is a lot more going on there that we don’t see.
I believe what Sibel Edmonds has to say, but she undermines herself too by associating herself with conspiracy promoters like Alex Jones, and letting plunger litter her threads. He even insinuated that I and macaquerman work for the mossad for finding fault with his logic processes. stupid.
eblari: Your “pin drop” comments are a dog whistle that make people avoid her site. It creates the phenomenon known as a self fulfilling prophesy. I know you don’t intend this but thats the effect is has. This site is a political site more than an investigative site. People are free to publish on the Seminal if it’s done in a serious manner. If you want to see things on this subject feel free to publish them, just like ubetchiam published this. Don’t just bitch about what you don’t see if you aren’t willing to put it up there.
yossarian: I don’t think it matters much who is in the white house as much as having a congress that will put and end to the imperial presidency and take control of the war funding. Deep state is running things. – Sibel’s podcast with Daniel Elsberg was excellent. They talked about this.
The silence was deafening..’g’
On your link, Sibel Edmonds asks…
“When will we see some accountability?“ And the answer is…
Never.
And immediately adjacent to my downbeat comment, on the right, at this moment, there’s a photo of George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, the “heroes” of aid to Haiti. Between them, between sanctions and war, Bush and Clinton were responsible for more than 1,500,000 deaths in Iraq.
“When will we see some accountability?“
Never.
Unlikely but who knows? Have been numerous articles about how pissed off many former officers and present investigative officers of the F.B.I and C.I.A. have been over decades of investigations that have been shut down that were focused on how the Israeli lobby has undermined U.S. national security. Passing U.S. intelligence onto foreign outlets etc
What’s the reason that we have to rely on Pat Buchanan and Larry Flynt to cover the story?
Asking me to post is fair enough. I plead guilty on that.
I doubt people avoid her site. I’d bet most FDLers have been to it. The community here it seems pretty clear reads quite widely. Quite widely.
How about investigating the treason that Hasturt and the others were involved in, and still are as agents of a foreign govt?
How are we not occupied by Israel (firsters)?
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/
Remember the Israeli spy rings of art students who were penetrating DEA offices all over the country before 9/11? Remember how Israeli telecommunications companies were monitoring LAPD, FBI, and DEA conversations, and tipping off Israeli mafia when investigators would start getting close to arresting them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo
No wonder Rahm, Lieberman, Chertoff, Mukasey, Feinstein, Schumer, and Harman support the continuing crackdown on civil liberties, and an increase in surveillance and indefinite detention/assassination of American citizens.
No wonder Rahm wants to take away the 2nd Amendment rights of anybody put on a watch list because “they may be a possible terrorist.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJBZZKlvrP4
Where’s the press coverage of Sibel Edmonds? Where’s Obama?
Please tell me I’m wrong about any of this.
Here’s Ben Smith’s interview with Rahm where Rahm promotes the idea of mandatory Civil Defense Training for all Americans between the ages of 18 and 25, “which will give people a sense of what it means to be an American.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgiNY5FxHBs&feature=related
The guy who volunteered for the Israeli army is going to force 3 months of bondage on people to “give people a sense of what it means to be an American.”
I think Rahm and his higher ups would like nothing more than to militarize and indoctrinate young Americans as successfully as has been done in Israel.
Rahm thinks the IDF is a great model for shaping conformity and nationalism in America.
I bet they are just waiting on a big terrorist attack or multiple attacks at once to unveil this plan for mandatory service, promoted in the name of keeping America safe (and Islamophobic).
Then political opponents of the two parties can be snitched out, put on a watch list, and have their 2nd Ammendment rights taken away.
Tell me AIPAC doesn’t think that would be good for Israel, and good for the stability of an increasingly oppressive American establishment and the unsustainable domestic, Palestinian, and global status quo.
Well, I’ll assume you are referring to the rest of the blogosphere, because your posits don’t apply to FDL, for the most part.
We all likely agree with you about whistleblowers, their importance, and the rot and corruption in our corporate government.
No pins here, hoss.
Because Sibel is blackballed by all media, which is corporate owned, and serves the same interests she’s blowing whistles on. Pretty simple, surprised you couldn’t figure that out.
Great comment, thoughts are spot on AFAIC. Thanks for sharing them.
“Lee “Rosy” Rosenberg, a jazz recording industry veteran capitalist who accompanied U.S. President Barack Obama on his campaign trip to Israel two years ago, takes over on Sunday as the new president of American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). Rosenberg also served on the president’s national campaign finance committee.
The new AIPAC president hails from Chicago, the home state of President Obama, and also is on first-name terms with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod, President Obama’s senior advisor.”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/136628
Great post ubetchaiam, thanks for the Sibel Update, and your thoughts.,
Good comments, too . . .
Nicely done, all.
Sibel is a treasure, how she’s still alive is beyond me, given what she is whistle blowing.
Geebuz . . . effing incredible.
Thanks for sharing that, Blue . . .
The rot runs deep, and WAY too freely.
FDL is a one source of information for real progressives. It has a great community. But it is not a completely honest place. Don’t get me wrong, it is more honest than FOX or the NYT. But if it is such a pro-whistleblower place, then why was there no interest in Kurt Haskell’s story? Why were mods calling him names and denigrating him? Focus on that one question. Perhaps we can quibble with the definition of whistelblower, but his revelations certainly deserved to be examined and discussed. Here, you could hear the pins drop. Having mods behave that way sets a tone that is clearly antithetical to the pursuit of truth. And it CRIES out for explanation. Explain why mods were denigrating a victim of an attempted bombing? Is that progressive?? My question is precise and I would like a precise answer. If you would like a link to the discussion I can provide it. But without an answer to that question FDL will be on probation as far as this VERY independent thinker is concerned. Yes, probation. I make up my own damned mind and I think FDL was shameful as a whole in ignoring Mr. Haskell, and even denigrating him.
I’ve been following Sibel Edmonds’s case for a long time; I’m familiar with it; and I believe her.
Yes, indeed. The rot is deep, impenetrable, and it stinks.
Sayanim (sing. Sayan; Hebrew: helpers, assistants) refers to Diaspora Jews who provide assistance to the Mossad.[1] Gordon Thomas estimates that in the United States and Britain, there are at least 20,000 sayanim who aid Israel’s intelligence agencies in a number of ways.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayanim
JEWISH AND ISRAELI SPIES
http://www.wake-up-america.net/jewish_and_israeli_spies.htm
Add to that list these newcomers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Nozette
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/25/60m... (Gregg Bergersen)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Weinmann
And one of Jonathan Pollard’s several co-conspirators was recently “brought to justice”:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1088991.html
Do you have links to this? I’d like to read them. Do you realize that this diary has been promoted?
Re: sheldonw@24 what you have posted has nothing to do with the content of the post. Please don’t get into the sayanim stuff and pull up Jonathan pollard crap. That’s the line that crosses into anti-semitism and ruins the diary.
All of you with the blinders still on should take a look at the February issue of the American Behavioral Scientist.
A brief description of that issue is as follows:
Entire February 2010 Issue of the American Behavioral Scientist Devoted to State Crimes Against Democracy: The Case of September 11, 2001
For 50 years the American Behavioral Scientist has been a leading source of behavioral research for the academic world. Its influence is shown by the fact that it is indexed by an extraordinary 67 major database services, causing its papers to be widely exposed on the international scene.
The publisher, Sage, is headquartered in Los Angeles, with offices in London, New Delhi, Singapore, and Washington DC.
Each issue offers comprehensive analysis of a single topic.
The six papers in the February 2010 issue are devoted to the recent concept of State Crimes Against Democracy (SCADs), with emphasis on 9/11 and on how human behavior has failed to recognize its reality. [Ref.abs.sagepub.com/content/vol53/issue6 ]
What are SCADs?
SCADs differ from earlier forms of political corruption in that they frequently involve political, military, and/or economic elites at the very highest levels of the social and political order, explains one essay.
Negative information actions are defined by another as willful and deliberate acts designed to keep government information from those in government and the public entitled to it. Negative information actions subvert the rule of law and the constitutional checks and balances.
One paper shows that preexisting beliefs can interfere with people’s examination of evidence for state crimes against democracy (SCADs), specifically in relation to the events of September 11, 2001, and the war on terror in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Another refers to TVs popular culture passion plays as displacing interrogation of real-event anomalies, as with the porous account given by the 9/11 Commission for what happened that fateful day.
And another deals with the actual destruction of sovereignty and democratic values under the onslaught of antiterrorism hubris, propaganda, and fear, in response to 9/11, asking whether the Patriot Acts of 2001 and 2006 are themselves state crimes against democracy.
The papers extensively quote the independent academic researchers who have been studying the 9/11 problem for years, including Dr. David Ray Griffin; Dr. Niels Harrit, Dr. Steven Jones, Chemist Kevin Ryan, and the rest of the team that studied nanothermite in the World Trade Center dust; and Dr. Peter Dale Scott, Dr. Michel Chossudovsky, Barrie Zwicker, Dr. Nafeez Ahmed, and The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein.
— Elizabeth Woodworth, Professional Librarian
What Sibel Edmonds describes is a network of Sayanim at the very highest levels of our government, working against America’s interests.
How is linking to dozens of examples of Sayanim spies off topic or anti-Semitic? Once again, listen to Sibel:
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/