A series of documents released on July 14 in the UK Binyam Mohamed civil case, Al Rawi and Others v Foreign and Commonwealth Office and Others, have produced a series of explosive revelations, reported in Britain and as yet unknown here in the U.S. The story has been reported at the UK Guardian, while the British advocacy group Reprieve has posted links to all the documents on its site.
The fate of the "ghost prisoners" in the U.S. rendition torture program has been the subject of much speculation. It was a central mystery explored in the recently released best-selling thriller by Barry Eisler, Inside Out, which takes the CIA’s secret black site torture and disappearances as the real-world scandal around which the book’s plot revolves. Eisler’s book implies that there were more killings in the secret prisons than we know.
Now, one of the most incendiary revelations in the documents concerns instructions given to MI6 Special Intelligence Service (SIS) over detention operations. According to Chapter 32 of MI6′s general procedural manual, "Detainees and Detention Operations", "the following sensitivities arise" (PDF – bold emphasis added):
a. the geographical destination of the target. Where will she or he be held? Under whose jurisdiction? Is it clear that detention, rather than killing, is the objective of the operation?
b. what treatment regime(s) for the detainees can be expected?
c. what is the legal basis for the detention?
d. what is the role of any liaison partner who might be involved?
The "objective" of "killing" points to the existence of extrajudicial murders carried out by the intelligence services. It’s not clear if the killings are by UK or liaison — including United States — forces. "Liaison partners" refers to instances of operational cooperation with non-UK intelligence agencies.
Both the Guardian and Reprieve make it clear, as does a perusal of the documents themselves, that official British policy was to cooperate with the U.S. rendition program. At more than one point, the UK government, led then by Labor Prime Minister Tony Blair, intervened to facilitate the rendition of prisoners, including UK citizens. At one point, in 2002, British officials discuss how to spin the leaks about UK cooperation with the rendition program: "Our line — that we are seeking information and reassurances and that the US is aware of our opposition to the death penalty — is not strong, but a stronger line is difficult until policy is clearer."
From the Reprieve report:
In a January 10, 2002, telegram from the FCO [Foreign Office], officials made clear that the Blair Government wanted British nationals taken to lawless detention in Guantanamo Bay: “we accept that the transfer of UK nationals held by US forces in Afghanistan to the US base in Guantánamo is the best way to meet out counter-terrorism objective by ensuring that they are securely held"….
An FCO official recognized in an August 22, 2002, email that “we are going to be open to charges of concealed extradition” and that as a result of direct interference by Number 10 “we broke our policy” on consular access by failing to help Martin Mubanga. Mubanga, who was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing after years in lawless detention without charge, was rendered first to Afghanistan and then to Guantanamo because Number 10 specifically refused to allow him to come home.
The Guardian article details a number of other details about "the Labour government’s involvement in the illegal abduction and torture of its own citizens." The UK government says it has identified half a million documents relevant to the Mohamed disclosure requests. The government’s request to stop the release of documents and force mediation with the plaintiffs was turned down by the British court.
Cameron Touts Secrecy for UK Torture Inquiry
The avalanche of documents has not escaped the notice of the new Cameron/Clegg coalition government. Just last week they announced the formation of a UK "judge-led investigation" regarding the complicity of intelligence personnel in the torture and rendition of detainees. The investigation is being conducted by a panel of three, whose head is the intelligence-connected Sir Peter Gibson, who is Intelligence Services Commissioner, responsible for monitoring secret bugging operations by MI5, MI6 and GCHQ (Britain’s version of the NSA). Many questions have been raised by the appointment of Gibson, and it is startling to think that British human rights groups will accede to the appointment, given Gibson’s likely bias, not to mention his track record in other "judge-led" investigations.
In any case, the six cases involved in the Mohamed civil proceedings are among those to be considered by the Gibson inquiry. While the government may not be able to stop the flow of documents in the Mohamed case, the Prime Minister was not going to let this be a precedent for the upcoming torture investigation.
From the UK Guardian:
Cameron also made clear that the sort of material that has so far been made public with the limited disclosure in the Guantánamo cases would be kept firmly under wraps during the inquiry. "Let’s be frank, it is not possible to have a full public inquiry into something that is meant to be secret," he said. "So any intelligence material provided to the inquiry panel will not be made public and nor will intelligence officers be asked to give evidence in public."
Maybe Cameron will be mollified if he looks at released documents like this one (PDF), in which almost 29 of 36 pages are totally redacted.
Exposing U.S. Torture
While on the surface this appears to be a story about Britain and torture, it is really about the United States. Tony Blair bent British rules and policies, including adherence to international treaties, such as the Convention Against Torture, at the behest of and to placate and cooperate with the United States.
At many points in the documents, it’s evident that British intelligence agents were witnessing serious abuse of prisoners. While they were told not to participate (actively) in the torture and cruel, inhuman, degrading treatment, the policies were written such that cooperation could proceed with ministerial approval.
The silence meeting these latest revelations in the U.S. press, the lack of ongoing interest in the UK torture inquiry, the failure by the so-called "progressive" components of the Democratic Party to strenuously take up the call by the ACLU, Center for Constitutional Rights, Physicians for Human Rights, and other human rights groups for greater accountability and official investigations over torture is an ominous development. One can only hope at this point that the continuing revelations about great crimes and cover-up will reach a tipping point, and the outrage over other issues — the BP massive oil blowout, Mel Gibson, etc. — will attach to the torture issue, which goes right to the heart of what this nation is. And right now, that heart is rotten.



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There is no depth deeper that our society has to fall, short of out and out genocide itself.
Do U.S. and British societies have the will to face these things, before the inevitable blowback in the form of greater attacks on civil liberties at home and greater or renewed imperial crimes abroad in Iran, Yemen, Somalia, not to mention ongoing in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Assassinations, extrajudicial killings, torture, kidnapping… forgive me if I cannot rouse myself, as over-sensitized as I am, to be very excited about the everyday round-about of scandal and political infighting in D.C. We are way deep down the rabbit hole, and if history is any guide, by the time we see bottom, it will be too late.
Great post Jeff, thanks. However, I am puzzled by the Mel Gibson reference. I’ve got no clue what that’s about, nor why it might be comparable to BP, torture, or the myriad acts of government malfeasance that have me so infuriated these days. I would be grateful if you would fill me in…
My poor way of saying from the otherwise important to the trivial…
Ah thanks. Now I see. Clearly, I need to spend more time following pop culture ; ) I thought he had done something seriously alarming and had missed it.
Words carry deep meaning. Stop letting them define the parameters.
Rendition is kidnapping, which is illegal period.
Interrogation done wrong, where the innocent ,uncharged is dead is murder.
Thanks, Jeff. I wonder what else will be found in those documents.
Don’t you think that the overall motive is to lessen the chances of harm by individuals who’ve been identified as awfully dangerous? I’d guess the policy-makers are not primarily concerned with exactly what will happen to them, along a spectrum of some very bad possibilities. When people fight wars out of uniform, things get awfully messy — way beyond simply shooting uniformed combatants.
no !
What you are arguing for — let’s be clear — is that the United States intelligence agencies (and by extension, any country) has the right to kidnap someone it thinks is bad, and then, while in their custody, without further adjudication, murder that person.
What you are arguing for is death squads, or at least that is the logical extension of your remarks.
“identified as awfully dangerous”… by whom, with what proof, what kind of dangerous, with what appeal? No matter how you slice it, this is an argument for brute force and tryanny, for lawlessness.
Thanks for highlighting this, Jeff. Andy Worthington now has a post up, too:
UK Sought Rendition of British Nationals to Guantánamo; Tony Blair Directly Involved; Andy Worthington; 7/15/10
http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2010/07/15/uk-sought-rendition-of-british-nationals-to-guantanamo-tony-blair-directly-involved/
I’ve believed for a long time Blair & Bush have a secret deal, involving the funding of the IRA, and the US’ support for terror attacks for 30 tears on UK soil.
Bush cut the IRA funding off, (Hello, Senator Kennedy, President Bush is calling) in return for Blair’s support on the GWOT.
Thanks, Jeff. The silence is beyond deafening. It’s pathological denial.
Still, I am encouraged. We who watch all of this are surprised by none of this. Years ago I needed to be convinced, but watching, imagining, and then seeing revelation after revelation, I ‘get’ the truth behind the pattern that we *can* see. What encourages me is this is at least a doubling of the available “record” ~ in that sense we are much better off than we were yesterday. And the accumulation of this record is not being stemmed. {Shit, why does that remind me of the BP oil volcano? Talk about yer signs, portents, and metaphors …}
When people finally do look they will see much more hard evidence of wrongdoing today than they could find yesterday. Anyone inclined to be outraged will burn at the depth of the years-long deception. I know, I know, how much evidence do they need? Well, more than *we* need, that’s for sure.
And the narrative is developing too. Not only is Blair disliked, but Brits will be able to huff and puff that Bush led them astray and the story will have those legs, perhaps long enough for Brits to realize they have an unsupected cancer in their government.
I see things developing in our interest. THAT is encouraging.
Carry on!
Oh, and when 23-year-olds like Omar Khadr, who were subjected to all manner of child abuse by family, friends, and authorities can call show trials and lying governments out for what they are so clearly, the fight is rallied anew. Omar Khadr impressed the hell out of me with his letter to the court. He is at the center of the web, pulling the strands down ~ powerful stuff.
Thank you, Jeff, your comment @1, sums it up, more than rather well, I would add, however, that “we” cannot stop ourselves.
That means others will have to stop us.
Which means that war will come to the “Homeland”.
That Americans cannot imagine such a possibility, will not, in fact, even acknowledge that such a possibility exists, says about as much about hubris as humanity can tolerate. Or not.
My continuing thanks to you, Jeff, for having the courage to perceive and ponder upon the obvious, which is studiously ignored, religiously denied, and full of direst consequence.
DW
Obama’s solved the problem.
Preditor Drones don’t leave a paper trail.
Predator Drones do leave calling cards, and consequently make lots of friends.
What Americans don’t know about … isn’t happening?
Who else is engaged in the massive and appalling use of these nasty things, these drones, these eyes of death in the skies above this earth?
Why would anybody dislike us?
Why would anybody despise us?
Why would anybody hate us?
Are we not Gawd’s gift to the world, the kindest, most generous people on earth? Do we not spread freedom and well-being, democracy and “free” enterprise around the globe? Has our technology not freed the world’s masses of drudgery and dangerous endeavor? Have we not tamed the wilderness and mastered the ocean depths? Have we not gone to the moon and brought the notion of “planned obsolescence” to the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions? Are we not the world’s financial leaders, do others not follow that lead? Are we not, in fact, the leader of the coalition of “the Willing”, the innovators of privatized war, the developers of mercenary “contractors” who can do ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, to keep us safe and secure?
What’s the problem?
DW
Wow. And this is from Cammie, who normally takes advantage of every opportunity he has to try and shiv New Labour as personified by Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Then again, the Tories were among the biggest cheerleaders for beating on the W-gs in Iraq and Afghanistan, so it’s not as if they can claim clean hands here.
This is the British Establishment keeping it secret. The Establishment transcends politics.
All these people know each other, went to the same schools, universities, get hired through the “old boys” network, and their families intermarry.
Jeff, thanks for the post.I have been following the Guardian’s coverage.
The one hope I hold is that the redaction process of that many documents will fail in catching some small detail that when coupled with other details becomes further evidence verification of large proportion.
Marcy has done it a few times along with you and others here.
‘explosive revelations’… ‘incendiary revelations’ says the author; meanwhile America collectively yawns.
Jeff: My point is not that kidnapping and torture are fine things, only that the theories expounded here about what’s driving people to these extremes are unnecessarily complex. It’s not that people are dreaming up ways to be cruel to their adversaries out of bloody-minded spite. They’re looking for a way to neutralize a dangerous enemy, and they perhaps don’t much care how rough it is on their enemy. If the enemy didn’t seem awfully dangerous, they wouldn’t be chasing him around trying to ruin his life just because they’re evil and fail to share your more enlightened views of how to treat residents of Southwest Asia.
You guys are trying too hard to find a complicated, nefarious motive. The motive is run-of-the-mill self-preservation and ruthlessness. It’s a fine thing to try to combat ruthlessness and urge self-sacrifice, but if you don’t address the need for self-preservation, you’re not going to get very far. What most Americans hear you saying is that they should stop defending themselves and be more merciful to people who want to kill them. They’re not buying it. You’ve got to find another approach.
who decides who is dangerous? how dangerous is too dangerous?
that slope is really slippery
That is a remarkably naive statement because U.S. officials were torturing for the sexual fun of it (Dr. Mitchell) and to obtain statements that they knew were false so that they could support the false justifications for war that they publicized. Yes, they “dreamed up ways to be cruel to their adversaries out of bloody-minded spite,” and yes, they murdered many of them “out of bloody-minded spite.”
And they did it all for access to oil and to destroy our civil liberties. They lied about it and continue to lie about it.
Mark my words. There will be no justice in this land until all of those sick bastards are held to answer for their crimes, including Obama for covering up their crimes and murdering innocent people with drones.
You use the word “enemy” three times in your first paragraph (once as “dangerous”), and refer to it once more with the pronoun “him”. Would it be asking too much to ask who you are talking about?
And your second paragraph leaves one wondering…preserve ourselves from what?
Is there any connection between nebulous threats and nebulous justifications?
So the Brits knew the U.S. policy at best tolerated the unintentional killing of prisoners, who were being tortured in foreign jails, and at worst it ordered certain prisoners killed, if they survived interrogation. Apparently, the Brits at least wanted a CYA paper trail that they weren’t up for that.
Mason… exactly! But even that wouldn’t work, because Jack Straw and Tony Blair and others kept pushing the servile British bureaucracy to break the law or overlook their own policies. In the end, they wrote the loopholes into the procedures (i.e., ministerial approval). How bitter does that sound, my British friends?… “we were just following orders.”
Ironic and disgusting, isn’t it, Jeff?
The Nurenberg trials emphatically rejected that defense for all time. None of these sick bastards has any excuse for torturing anyone for any reason. EVER!
Yet another indication, along with Scott Horton’s report in Harper’s about Guantanamo’s Camp No, that the “Caspers” in Inside Out were real. How could they not be? You’d have to believe that the truth is now completely out and the government has nothing more, nothing worse, to hide.
Texan, you say, “It’s not that people are dreaming up ways to be cruel to their adversaries out of bloody-minded spite.” I wish I could share your charitable read of human nature, but I can’t find evidence to support your view, and in fact see overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Sorry to interrupt, but Jason Leopold has an excellent article on Jay Bybee’s secret appearance before Conyers’ House Judiciary Committee at Truthout:
http://www.truth-out.org/author-torture-memos-admits-some-techniques-were-not-approved-by-doj61392
“The silence meeting these latest revelations in the U.S. press, the lack of ongoing interest in the UK torture inquiry”
Anyone hearing any whispers out of Rachel, Keith, Ed, Dylan you know those progressive talking heads? Hey they were all completely silent on the Goldstone Report. Silence. Thesel iiberal talking heads (choke)
We know they read here. We know they know the subject well. Choke would be the correct word.
I’m assuming your comment is pure snark.
Great job as always Jeff. I have only one issue with your post. You write:
“One can only hope at this point that the continuing revelations about great crimes and cover-up will reach a tipping point, and the outrage over other issues — the BP massive oil blowout, Mel Gibson, etc. — will attach to the torture issue, which goes right to the heart of what this nation is.”
The media controls “our” outrage. Indeed, that is its primary function. We had better have hope that goes well well beyond that of hoping that the media will reflect citizens’ justifiable outrage.
The media only normatively controls the outrage. I believe if KO or Maddow got 200 calls today about why aren’t they covering the UK inquiry, or revelations that Tony Blair changed policies to back U.S. torture, or that the rendition program apparently included extrajudicial murder, then I think they would cover it. In other words, I accept your general point, but don’t believe that we are totally powerless.
Not sure what you mean by “normative” in this context. What are you opposing to the normative? Some common answers would be the descriptive or the causal but I don’t think you would say either of those, so I’m not sure what you mean here. As for KO, yes, he might cover this if enough people called him, but look at what saying that amounts to. The most progressive of the MSM people would cover a story a few times if enough people already knew about the content of the story and asked them to cover it. What of the rest of the MSM? What of all the other stories that demand outrage? What of the fact that this puts the cart before the horse and requires that the viewers first uncover the information and then ask the reporter to cover it? There is no getting around the fact that 9 or so mega companies control the debate. As I have said before, a dozen nukes could go off tomorrow and 99% of the magazines would not mention it anywhere. Our media lives in their own made up land of make believe and it is designed to project normality onto a world where we commit torture. Expecting it to behave differently is like expecting Philip Morris to voluntarily tell us how harmful their product is. As far as I can tell, the only thing that we can do is to shock our family members, coworkers, acquaintances, and perhaps total strangers by telling them that they have been lied to and that they are fucking ignorant. Make a scene in other words. We are talking outrage here after all.
I’ve done that… did that for years… still do that… sometimes…
I’m totally in agreement with you re the control of the media. By normatively, I mean, basically, all the time… unless somehow it changes.
Yes, it is a sad fact that it will take a big hullabaloo to get heard or picked up by the “progressive” club.
Don’t know what will make things tip. But bought out?…. Did you know that Father Gapon, the priest who started the 1905 uprising/revolution in Russia was a Czarist police spy? Not that I advocate a repeat of that affair, or of the leadership of police spies, but only that when societies finally start to change, the old glacial look of things break up, and everything can be rearranged. You don’t know what will happen in such instances. Even times of tremendous turmoil can produce a lot more information. Check out this video from only 1987.
“I’m totally in agreement with you re the control of the media. By normatively, I mean, basically, all the time… unless somehow it changes.”
Anyone here any mention of this on Rachel’s, Keith’s, Ed’s, Dylan’s last night or anywhere else in the MSM?
Elliot: “who decides who is dangerous? how dangerous is too dangerous?” — As a practical matter, the people who decide this are the ones who are (1) threatened and (2) willing and able to defend themselves. If they don’t learn how to make this judgment accurately enough, they don’t survive.
michaelfishman asks: Who is the dangerous enemy to whom I refer? That’s the trick, isn’t it? Sometimes the answer is clear, as when we identify high-ranking members of al-Qaeda or the Taliban, or someone taken armed (though not in uniform) on the field of battle. Other times it can be as hard a question to answer as when the police arrest a criminal suspect and have only equivocal evidence against him. The guys against whom the U.S. uses rendition tend to be in the first group. But I’m not going to try to persuade you that we never get it wrong. All I’m saying is that the U.S. doesn’t use rendition out of some kind of inexplicable irrational spitefulness. We do it to pull the fangs of people we’ve decided are really, really, dangerous. You can pretend yourselves that these guys aren’t really dangerous if you like, but you’re not going to get far with most voters, who will conclude that you’re simply not serious about any threat that’s not immediate and to your own person.
That so doesn’t give me the right to track down my ex (for ex.) and off him because I think he is a threat to me.
Yeah like 12 year olds and folks who weren’t anywhere near the problem areas.
so much for “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” which since they weren’t judged by anyone other than folks in a bunker pretty much means, we have no moral authority anymore to complain about any other country.
So then, texan99, you will have no problem if Americans, soldiers or civilians, even yourself, are subject to rendition and torture by some other nation or group who “believe” that “we” threaten them?
Or is it only “we” who may behave this way?
Perhaps that is not a serious question in your mind?
You have no problem with torture, nor with the motivation of those who engage in it? Because you trust the torturers?
But only “our” torturers?
Can you imagine the possibility that the rest of the world may not long tolerate such behavior on our part? Or do you imagine the rest of the world are all so afraid of our destructive power that no one will gainsay us?
Perhaps you and all those “voters” who cannot take that possibility seriously are in need of some thoughtful readjustment of your thinking?
Clearly, you believe America exceptional and not bound by reason or humanity? Are there any limits beyond which you would not “go” in pursuit of your “security”?
DW
Come on, now. The U.S. used and continues to use rendition in an attempt to keep blood off its hands (and claim it didn’t violate the Geneva Conventions ban on torture) by letting its proxies do its dirty work, all the while savoring every choke and scream with a maniacal gleam in its proverbial eye.
The vast majority of what Obama so fondly calls the “worst of the worst,” whom we have tortured for years at Guantamo (and probably continue to torture) are INNOCENT!
We don’t have to pretend they aren’t really really dangerous because they are innocent.
Only the stubborn and willfully ignorant have to pretend they are really really dangerous, which is a stupid fucking waste of their time and energy.
And now Obama wants to play a where’s-the-evil-worst-of-the-worst-prisoner shell game by locking innocent people up in the prison at Bagram AFB in Afghanistan and torture them at Camp No within it.
The real terrorists we should fear are George Bush, Dick Cheney, Barack Obama and everyone in their administrations from Hell (including Yoo & Bybee), the CIA, Blackwater and other private contractors (like Dr. Mitchell), and the military who had anything to do with torture. We shall never be free until they are held accountable for their hideous and morally reprehensible crimes AND we restore our liberties that they have taken from us.
Why didn’t we have a Truth Commission? Why did some Senators call for one? Why did Sheldon Whitehouse say that just about everything we have been told about torture is false?
It’s not pretty benign rendition it’s illegal kidnapping which is prohibited by treaties we ratified.
So Al Quadea has the right to rendition your family members and you accept the fact you have no right to know what happened to them and if they are murdered during a torture session you’re good with that too?
If not why not?
Thank you, Jeff. My fear is that Cameron has launched this “judge-led inquiry” to stifle inquiry rather than to self-examine government abuses with the aim of stopping them. The work of you and others helps make that harder to do – in the UK.
Here, it seems, the fix is already in. The establishment’s silence on American torture is ominous. It’s refrain of “We don’t torture” is already changing into “it works”, “we needed to do it”, “we’d do it again [or we still do it]“.
Very good report, Jeff.
One problem that as a result of U.S. media non-coverage of these issues, when I talk to non-activists and try to get them interested in them, I realize that my knowledge base and theirs are so different, it’s hard to know where to start. “Have you heard about…And did you know about…And were you aware of….?” Usually the answers are “No, I didn’t know” and “Really? That’s going on?”
Well, we gotta keep pushing this stuff as best we can — it’s a moral and civic imperative.
By the way, I understand that Baltazar Garzon has been running into a lot of flack in Spain. If he can’t do anything, and Germany won’t, and we won’t, who might?
Elliot: Tracking down your ex is exactly the kind of thing people used to do before they adopted a justice they could trust most of the time. Get rid of the justice system, and people will go back to tracking down their ex. My point about the subject of “rendition” is that if you leave most Americans believing there is no other effective way of dealing with terrorists, they won’t rise up and put a stop to rendition. I won’t like the results, and you won’t like the results, but they’ll keep happening because you’ve got your head in the sand about very dangerous people.
dakine: “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” is not a principle that holds true worldwide or in a war zone.
DWBartoo: Of course I have a problem with it. I also have a problem with Americans being blown up. I can’t wave a wand and make either of these go away any more than you can. My point, which you guys keep wanting to turn into a referendum on whether I like civil rights or not, is that you will never make any progress in persuading the American people to vote for a different system than rendition, until you show them you’re serious about dealing with the threat of people we don’t dare put back on the streets. People don’t go all vigilante just because they’re defective citizens. They go vigilante when they think the authorities are falling down on the job of maintaining a certain level of public order and security. Rendition is society’s coward’s way out: letting someone doing the dirty work of protecting our security when we can’t look the job in the eye and do it ourselves.
tjbs: It’s not about rights. I don’t recognize any rights on al Qaeda’s part, and I won’t until al Qaeda starts acting like a sovereign nation and reaching agreements with us instead of fighting from behind the cover of women and children. Al Qaeda operatives are enemy combatants not in uniform, and are getting the better end of the bargain when they don’t find themselves summarily shot under the Geneva Conventions. In the meantime, this is a war not an American crime drama.
Care to answer my questions? You skipped right over them.
Cue Jack Nicholson: “YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH”
Edit:
Yet treating them like criminals worked quite nicely at catching, charging, trial, and conviction for the folks who attempted the first WTC bombing. And Timothy McVeigh.
They are criminal, pure and simple. Nothing more and nothing less and should be treated as such and not like some oogie-boogie men come to steal our breath away in the night.
By treating them as you desire, you give them a stature far above what they are worth
Please provide credible sources/links for this assertion.
Just to let you know that you are mis-informed. Just because you don’t recognize their rights, doesn’t mean they don’t have any.
ICRC Terrorism FAQ:
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/terrorism-faq-050504?opendocument
Common Article 3 [Emphasis added]
Part I. General Provisions
Thanks for the references to the appropriate documentation! (esp. (1)(d))
No problem, Jeff.
Looks like we’re batting 100! /snark
Uggh!
Clarification: I mean batting 100 [snark] with regard to (a) through (d).
It’s no God damn war without a declaration of war but bloodlusting animals don’t need no constitution that they claim to LOVE.
You didn’t answer my questions so have at your one sided argument.
Jeff,
About a half hour ago, I bumped into a friend while I was out and about. He told me that he had just received a text message stating that BP has successfully capped the runaway well with its new gadget and it’s happily recovering 100% of the oil with no leaks into the strata.
He received the text message at approximately 5:40 PM, CST.
Great news, if true.
Esp. since the media appears to only have one major “shock” story it can project/report at a time.
Maybe good timing for those of us who want to show the real gushing well of revelations on the torture/experimentation/govt killings scandal, which is also not just a bunch of “leaks”, but evidence of a large scale conspiracy to commit war crimes.
Keep the great work you’re doing. I appreciate it more than words can say.
I agree that there was and is a large scale conspiracy to commit war crimes and cover them up.
Echoing Mason … keep up the great work, Jeff !