The isolation and degradation of Bradley Manning by the Marine Corps penal authorities at the Quantico brig represents a significant acceleration of government torture policy, as it is meant, among other things, to further desensitize the U.S. population to the use of torture. Torture will be used on political dissidents in this country, that is clear now, and PFC Manning is the first, but there will be others.
How bad is isolation? Bad enough that former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld himself felt it warranted a “caution” in his April 16, 2003 memo authorizing certain aggressive forms of interrogation, i.e., torture.
Caution: the use of isolation as an interrogation technique requires detailed implementation instructions, including specific guidelines regarding the length of isolation, medical and psychological review, and approvals for extension of the length of by the appropriate level in the chain of command. This technique is not known to have been generally used for interrogation purposes for longer than 30 days. Those nations that believe that detainees are subject to POW protections may view use of this technique as inconsistent with the requirements of Geneva III, Article 13 which provides that POWs must be protected against acts of intimidation; Article 14 which provides that POWs are entitled to respect for their person; Article 34 which prohibits coercion and Article 126 which ensures access and basic standards of treatment. Although the provisions of Geneva are not applicable to the interrogation of unlawful combatants, consideration should be given to these views prior to application of this technique.
Rumsfeld — bureaucrat that he is — concentrates on the legal obstacles to the use of isolation. But the psychological components have been well studied for decades. The following is from a 1961 article on use of isolation for interrogations written by Lawrence Hinkle, then a psychiatrist at Cornell Medical Center, and a CIA consultant (link to quote can be found here, emphasis in quote is mine):
It is well known that prisoners, especially if they have not been isolated before, may develop a syndrome similar in most of its features to the “brain syndrome”…. They become dull, apathetic, and in due time they become disoriented and confused; their memories become defective and they experience hallucinations and delusions…. their ability to impart accurate information may be as much impaired as their capacity to resist an interrogator….From the interrogator’s viewpoint it has seemed to be the ideal way of “breaking down” a prisoner, because, to the unsophisticated, it seems to create precisely the state that the interrogator desires: malleability and the desire to talk, with the added advantage that one can delude himself that he is using no force or coercion…. However, the effect of isolation on the brain function of the prisoner is much like that which occurs if he is beaten, starved, or deprived of sleep.
In the Camp Delta Guantanamo camp-wide SOP, declassified a few years ago, isolation was described as a tactic meant “to enhance and exploit the disorientation and disorganization felt by a newly arrived detainee” by isolating him or her in a Maximum Security cell, without even access to Red Cross or religious personnel, for at least the first four weeks upon arrival. Such isolation is meant to deprive the prisoner of all social support and “ability to resist.”
Indeed, it appears that the Marines are implementing the SERE “Coercive Management Techniques,” themselves modeled after Albert Biderman’s Chart of Coercion, which was taught to interrogators at Guantanamo. What are these “coercive management techniques”? I outlined them in an article in June 2008, which also examined the ways JPRA/SERE personnel taught their techniques to Guantanamo interrogators and “behavioral consultants”:
1. Isolation: This deprives the prisoner of all social support and “ability to resist”. While turning the prisoner upon his own resources, it “makes victim dependent upon interrogator” (quotes are from the SERE version). Furthermore, isolation can be complete, semi, or “group isolation”.
2. Monopolisation of Perception: This means again “physical isolation. Darkness or bright light. Barren environment. Restricted movement. Monotonous food.” The goal? To fixate the prisoner upon his “immediate predicament”, the technique also “eliminates stimuli competing with those controlled by captor,” frustrating all action “not consistent with compliance.”
3. Induced Debilitation and Exhaustion: This is what it seems to be, i.e., a method to weaken a prisoners’ “mental and physical ability to resist.” Techniques include: “Semi-starvation. Exposure. Exploitation of wounds. Induced illness. Sleep deprivation. Prolonged constraint. Prolonged interrogation” and “over-exertion”, among other practices (tortures!)
4. Threats: Which “cultivates anxiety and despair”, including threats of death, non return, “endless interrogation and isolation”, threats against family, and “mysterious changes of treatment”.
5. Occasional indulgences: To provide positive motivation for compliance, it also has the effect of hindering “adjustment to deprivation.”
6. Demonstrating “Omnipotence” and “Omniscience”: The purpose of this is said to suggest to the prisoner the “futility of resistance”. How is this done? By “demonstrating complete control over victim’s fate”. (And this, by the way, is a crucial way that the ban on habeas corpus for these prisoners, recently overturned by the Supreme Court, fed into the military’s torture program, by demonstrating that there was no appeal to anyone.)
7. Degradation: This is where one finds the prevention of personal hygiene, the insults, taunts, “demeaning punishments” and “denial of privacy”. The goal was to damage prisoner self esteem, making “capitulation” a lesser evil. It also “reduces the prisoner to ‘animal level’ concerns.” [Forced nakedness or stripping of the prisoner would come under this category. In fact, "stripping" or "forceful removal of detainee's clothing" was part of the 2002 SERE SOP "coercive management techniques, "used to demonstrate the omnipotence of the captor or to debilitate the detainee."]
8. Enforcing Trivial Demands: Again the point is to develop compliance in the captive, and takes place through “enforcement of minute rules.”
So there you have it, these are the “principles” the SERE instructors insisted future trainers for interrogators at Guantanamo (and since SERE instruction migrated to Iraq and Afghanistan as well, we can presume there as well) “be thoroughly prepared to discuss and explain”.
I suppose we can say these techniques have now migrated to Quantico as well, and so the torture virus enters the domestic body bloodstream, through its military vector.
Make no mistake, we are living in a totally lawless world, where there is no accountability for great crimes, whether those crimes be the torture of countless thousands, the aggressive bombing and devastation of non-attacking countries, violations of privacy against ordinary citizens, or the rape and pillage of the economies of the world for the benefit of a privileged few.



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The title of your article says it all.
Thanks for sharing this.
The amount of material available on the deleterious effects of the kind of treatment meted out to Bradley Manning is quite large. Anyone who at this point cannot grasp the damage being done to this young man, and many others like him (Omar Khadr remains in isolation after his recent military commissions plea bargain conviction), is either ignorant (willfully or innocently), or consciously promoting the government’s agenda.
Oh, exactly.
Mildly O/T, but the psychologists at Coalition for an Ethical Psychology have posted a valuable online 10-Year “Psychology, Torture, and the APA” Timeline. It’s easy to use, and is a must resource for those who wish to examine the interactions between the actions of the American Psychological Association and key psychologists and the machinations of the government in implementing its torture regime.
Bravo to the CEP and those who put this excellent tool together.
The public treatment of Manning is very precedent setting in regards to how open they are being about it, and I think that this is further pushing the margins of acceptability re torture and overall repression of political dissidents.
But, I would like to add that this type of torture against dissidents has been going on for a while, just more quietly. One example is the case of the Angola 3, for whom we, “Angola 3 News” advocate for, who got framed for murder in retaliation for forming a Black Panther chapter in the early 1970s, at Angola Prison in Louisiana (an 18,000 acre “former” slave plantation) and organizing multi-racial work and hunger strikes addressing the horrific conditions for prisoners. Robert King was released in 2001 after 29 years in solitary. Albert Woodfox and Herman Wallace are still behind bars, now over 38 years in solitary! You can read more about this at Alternet:
http://www.alternet.org/rights/139222/the_angola_three%3A_torture_in_our_own_backyard/?page=entire
and Mother Jones:
http://motherjones.com/special-reports/2009/03/angola-3-36-years-solitude
Then there is also the 1970s torture of the SF8 defendants, also Black Panthers. But this time it was to extract “confessions” not with solitary, but with electrocution, extreme beatings, and other physical torture, documented well in this 20 minute video “Legacy of Torture”
http://freedomarchives.org/BPP/torture.html
The SF8 is also a story that we just released a video about, interviewing Cisco Torres, the last remaining SF8 defendant:
http://my.firedoglake.com/angola3news/2011/02/27/video-dylcia-and-cisco-on-panthers-and-independistas-sf8-hearing-on-march-2/
And this video of Richard Brown, a member of the SF8 who has already had the charges dropped against him, speaking about the anti-war Grand Jury resisters:
http://angola3news.blogspot.com/2011/02/richard-brown-sf8-and-fbi-repression.html
Once again, great article. We’ve just recently joined the FDL community and look forward to more interaction and dialogue.
This looks like an excellent resource, Jeff. Thanks for sharing it. Very chilling.
Another site I’d recommend is Solitary Watch:
http://solitarywatch.com/
And this is a very powerful video by the AFSC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEs3BQ0znAs
This is a video that we made with Robert King (who spent 29 years in solitary confinement) and author and doctor Terry Kupers:
http://angola3news.blogspot.com/2009/12/robert-king-terry-kupers-psychological.html
Has anyone determined yet under who’s specific authority at the Pentagon this treatment is being carried out? That is to say, what is the chain of command from the President, to Secretary Gates, to whom, and where it makes its jump into the military? And which member of the JAG Officers Corp has signed off on it?
It has to have been signed off on, this guy directly in charge of Manning isn’t doing it out in public in front of the national media all on his lonesome.
Who’s ordering it, and what’s the legal justification? What are they telling the President when he asks if this is legal when he reads Charlie Savage with his breakfast? Who’s job is is to write that document?
That’s the unnamed invisible person we need to find and expose before a congressional committee.
Thanks, A3N, for all your great links, and your excellent points up thread. Certainly, solitary confinement and other penal abuse/torture has been used on African-Americans and other minority groups for decades (if not centuries, if we choose to look at it that way). There is a synergy between the domestic use of isolation and prison abuse, which had a heavy racist and classist edge, and the use of torture on what used to be called third world people abroad, the training of torturers from Southeast Asia and Korea, to Africa, to Latin America.
We would look in vain for a precise change in U.S. policy in the past 60 years, but the Bush years did represent a certain going public with torture on a federal-military level. The torture of Bradley Manning has a special significance in that he is a high-profile prisoner, with a lot of attention, and no previous links to presumed terrorist groups (like Padilla). To continue with his torture in the face of much publicity demonstrates a commitment to the torture paradigm domestically at a federal level which appears unprecedented to me… outside the established boundaries of the prison system, where such torture and abuse has been institutionalized.
I look forward to watching the video on King. I took a class from Terry Kupers lo this almost 20 years ago at my psychology school in Berkeley. He likely doesn’t remember me, another student in his class, but his passion for social justice and his humanity had a big effect on me in the formative years of my graduate education.
I look forward to reading more of your contributions here.
Very cool that you took a class from Terry Kupers. It was great to meet him, as well as Robert King, when filming the interview.
You make strong points, particularly how the treatment of Manning is precedent-setting –especially in context of the fact that none of the war criminals he allegedly exposed have faced any charges. This could not be more outrageous. If interested, this is a previous interview we did with Dahr Jamail about Manning and more:
http://angola3news.blogspot.com/2010/12/bradley-manning-and-gi-resistance-to-us.html
I’ve speculated before and think (a wild-arsed guess, as Marcy would say) that this comes down from the Joint Chiefs. That means the order would come from the Marine commandant’s office, and okayed by the Sec Def. Obama would also have been informed.
I’d say the JCS/Pentagon are livid at what they see as Bradley’s insubordination. It also frightens them, and they want to make an example.
Thanks for your focus but I believe it’s a cancer not a virus and it’s metasticized.
Bradley Manning will soon join Nathan Hale, and Daniel Ellsburgh in the panoply of American heroes. Although taking an oath to safeguard government property, he was brave enough to expose myriads of goverment excesses by breaking his oath. He is like the 30ties Oxford scholars who said that if it came to betraying their country or their friends they wished they had the guts to betray their country. Philby was one of those thinkers. Suicide watch is the best way I know of to get somebody to commit suicide. He does have couregeous lawyers working for his survival and the Freedom of the Press to have 4 year college liberal arts grads with big family connections to second guess career military officers and state department officals without big family connections. As St Paul , St Peter, and Sir Thomas More learned the hard way being a martyr does have it`s drawbacks.
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Which civilian? Gates? Then who wrote the legal justification? There has to be a cool headed legal justification, this isn’t being done in anger by a large group. This is being done in deliberation by someone or some group that believes they have a justification for it, if asked by a judge or JAG.
Thank you for this and all your other good work.
My understanding is that Manning’s treatment also involves sleep deprivation. That he is awoken every 5 minutes to ask if you is alright and required to respond. Has that been going on for all this time?
Would you please speak to that.
From Kucinich’s statements, I’d guess Gates. My point is that the policy originated, I believe, on the military side, and the civilian branch is going along with it.
I like your metaphor better, but I’m not going to go back and change it. I’ll save it for the next appropriate airing.
My understanding is that he is checked on while awake every 5 minutes or so and asked if he is okay. This is harassment, though done during waking hours.
At night, he is supposedly awakened when his sleep position is such that he is turned away from view or, as his attorney explains, “if the guards can not see him clearly, because he has a blanket over his head or he is curled up towards the wall, they will wake him in order to ensure that he is okay.” We don’t know how often this happens, but it must happen often enough to constitute concerted disruption of sleep. It’s obvious harassment b/c we already know he is under constant video surveillance.
The control over even the position in which Manning sleeps is an intrusive attempt to assert omnipotence over the prisoner, and constitutes abusive treatment. All these different manipulations, along with the heavy solitary confinement, add up to a psychological torture program.
In addition, now he is required to sleep in the nude, in what is reported to be a cold cell. (Yes, he has a “suicide” blanket.)
FYI, Duncan Campbell at the UK Guardian has a column posted this morning, Don’t Forget Bradley Manning.
Hi, ondelette!
Might it be the General Cousel of the Department of Defense…the position held by Jim ‘Wait a minute, we can’t have acquittals. If we’ve been holding these guys for so long, how can we explain letting them get off? . . . We’ve got to have convictions.’ Haynes during the Bush fiasco and now occupied by Jeh Johnson?
Scott Horton wrote about Johnson, yesterday in:
Inhumanity at Quantico
http://harpers.org/archive/2011/03/hbc-90008012
[Johnson has visited Manning]
I’m thinking also about Bradley Manning’s parents, who must be suffering and grieving every second of every day. Does anyone know their names and mailing address? Maybe it would be slightly comforting to them to receive letters and cards of support from everyone who is sickened by Obama’s deliberate destruction of their heroic young son.
Where is Congress? Where are the courts? Where are international outrage and international sanctions against the U.S. for our ongoing crimes against humanity at home and abroad???? Nowhere. Thank God for Anonymous, the internet activists, or “hacktivists,” who have now launched “Operation Bradical:”
“Over the weekend, the loose hacker collective Anonymous declared that it will go on the offensive against those who are currently detaining Manning in a Quantico military brig, keeping him in solitary confinement and forcing him to strip nightly and stand at attention naked each morning.
“In a crowdsourced document used to coordinate the group’s actions, Anonymous members name Department of Defense Press Secretary Geoff Morell and chief warrant officer Denise Barnes as targets and call on members to dig up personal information on both, including phone numbers, personal histories and home addresses. The goal of the operation, for now, is to “dox” the two officials, the typical Anonymous method of publishing personal information of victims and using it for mass harassment.
“Targets established,” reads the document, before naming Morell and Barnes. “We’re in the ruining business. And business is good.”
“The group, which is calling its attack “Operation Bradical,” also lists demands as follows:
“Manning must be given sheets, blankets, any religious texts he desires, adequate reading material, clothes, and a ball. One week. Otherwise, we continue to dox and ruin those responsible for keeping him naked, without bedding, without any of the basic amenities that were provided even to captured Nazis in WWII.”
http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2011/03/07/anonymous-hackers-target-alleged-wikileaker-bradley-mannings-jailers/
Here’s a great interview with an Anonymous spokesperson:
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/americas/2011/03/201135165517786219.html
Thanks for those linke. I was more or less aware of those prior incidents of torture, which has been ongoing in the USA probably since the beginning of our nation.
Manning’s treatment is being made more public in order to soften up the serfs into finding it “acceptable,” which I witness happening quite easily amongst those who self-identify both as conservative and as liberal. A crying d*mn shame, but there it is.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt, as they say. Some citizens wish ardently to live forever in denial… until something happens to them directly. Sadly, some citizens will gleefully accept this and say: Manning “had it coming.” It’s really too bad to be so narrow-minded and short-sighted, but that’s what it’s all about.
Again, my sincere thanks, Jeff.-harpie
I can’t support hacking attacks against DoD officials, or really anyone. Such attacks only bring government repression upon people, and they undercut the main issue, which is to expose the political cowardice of the political branches of government (and the MSM), and to organize effectively to change the political situation in this country. That will bring about change, not threatening government officials with cyber-blackmail.
I understand the anger and sense of tremendous frustration that would lead people to want to engage in such activities, or support them. But this is a time to keep level-headed, and not take on the government in an adventurist, doomed attempt to get even with them for bad or criminal behavior.
Jeh Johnson. Thanks. Wonder if he is having discussions with the people who do the same legal mumbo-jumbo for the other detainees — at Guatánamo and Bagram. They have to believe all this is going to be public and in front of a judge at some point.
I appreciate your reply, which reminded me of how much I liked Malvina Reynold’s song, “It Isn’t Nice,” back in the day. I just found it again on youtube, and it’s still great!
But you are right, Anonymous’s hacking attacks are illegal and could get them jailed. Would civil disobedience be a better way to go, now that Obama claims the right to jail anyone without trial for any length of time? Civil rights protestors who were arrested were brought before judges, but that doesn’t seem to be a given anymore.
Anonymous is not doing civil disobedience, but their actions are designed to “expose the political cowardice … of government” and to get exposure in the MSM, which raises the awareness of the general public.
You can hear Malvina Reynolds singing “It Isn’t Nice” here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvC4xq32AX8
It Isn’t Nice, by Malvina Reynolds
It isn’t nice to block the doorway,
It isn’t nice to go to jail,
There are nicer ways to do it,
But the nice ways always fail.
It isn’t nice, it isn’t nice,
You told us once, you told us twice,
But if that is Freedom’s price,
We don’t mind.
It isn’t nice to carry banners
Or to sit in on the floor,
Or to shout our cry of Freedom
At the hotel and the store.
It isn’t nice, it isn’t nice,
You told us once, you told us twice,
But if that is Freedom’s price,
We don’t mind.
We have tried negotiations
And the three-man picket line,1
Mr. Charlie2 didn’t see us
And he might as well be blind.
Now our new ways aren’t nice
When we deal with men of ice,
But if that is Freedom’s price,
We don’t mind.
How about those years of lynchings
And the shot in Evers’ back?
Did you say it wasn’t proper,
Did you stand upon the track?
You were quiet just like mice,
Now you say we aren’t nice,
And if that is Freedom’s price,
We don’t mind.
It isn’t nice to block the doorway,
It isn’t nice to go to jail,
There are nicer ways to do it
But the nice ways always fail.
It isn’t nice, it isn’t nice,
Well thanks for your advice,
Cause if that is Freedom’s price,
We don’t mind.
Marcy Wheeler writes about The EO and Afghanistan today:
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/03/08/what-about-indefinite-detention-in-afghanistan/
Wonder where are all those so called progressives who were going “bonkers” when GWBush was doing this to Jose Padilla…remember the special commentaries.
And I seem to remember that Al Franken who had a radio show going after GWBush on the treatment of Jose Padilla.Well,anyone hear anything from Senator Franklin on the treatment of Bradley Manning ?
Day after day,we are finding out it’s one big con game,say something voters can indentify with then once you win election,bad is good.
When is Bradley’s trial? They must be working overtime to break him before it comes up.
Could this be a hostage-taking incident? Is it possible that the government is putting the screws to Bradley to get Assange to ante up something for them to stop the torture?
Isn’t this standard practice for prisoners in supermax prisons? And if so, aren’t most of them stark raving mad by now? And isn’t that cruel & unusual punishment?
Also, male rape in prisons is spoken about as if it were completely routine & acceptable. In one of my guilty pleasures, L&O reruns, they ‘detectives’ say to male suspects, with glee, that they’ll be raped when they get to prison. Only slightly veiled language, like: You know what happens to perps like you in the shower.
I’ve been watching these for years. They were early indicators of the kind of country I am living in.
Manning will never go on trial. This treatment is prep for plea bargain.
This is a really hard post to read. Bradley Manning is our son, our brother, our father or a close friend. We must manage somehow to make sure that people know the story and what’s really going on. I probably think of him 50 times a day – it’s a story that is both unbelievable in this country and heartbreaking. What have we become?
I’ve always had an issue with tv shows & movies that gleefully tell perps that they’re “gonna get it” by being forcibly raped when they go to jail… as if that’s “fair” and “part of the bargain” of paying your debt to society.
It’s all about softening up citizens (or the slow boil analogy) to accept the unacceptable. Very sad; very deleterious to us personally and as society; very wrong.
Obama needs to be directly confronted with this situation. How? Hell if I know.
What you see here with Brady Manning (and others who have gone before, like Padilla) is who we *really* are, I’m sad to say. And some citizens are cheering on this treatment of Manning and decrying him as a “traitor” without any trial. The laughable called “rule of law” has flown out the window a long time ago.
Agree, but he’d bob & weave & dodge it and mouth some platitudes, if O even bothered to countenance the confrontation. As Commander in Chief, Obama is totally responsible for this, make no mistake.
My point is not to blame the TV shows, but rather the opposite, which is they would not say such thinigs on such a TV show so casually if society as a whole didn’t think it was perfectly acceptable.
How many military are in a military prison right now, that he wouldn’t be in solitary confinement anyway?
John Walker Lynch.
Never did anything against the U.S.
Was just a little lost boy-man who had no idea what happened in the wider world when he got caught up in it.
He was the first U.S. citizen who Rummy was determined to make an example of. Was really easy for Rummy to demonize him in the immediate wake of 9/11.
His lawyer was smart though. Settled for a plea before Lynch could be tortured too much.
It was easy to see where the country was going after you saw what happened to Lynch.
The John Walker Lynch case was a total miscarriage of justice. I think all of us began to feel as little unsafe when it happened.
Rally In Support of Bradley Manning – Quantico 3/20/11
$10 R/T Bus from DC’s Union Station
https://co.clickandpledge.com/sp/d1/default.aspx?wid=40394
in my perfect world, the protesters would re enact the government’s inhumane treatment of this young man
Bless you Jeff Kaye -
One of the developments in the evolution of torture in the US over the last 50 years has been the application of internal, psychological techniques, as folks who know about KUBARK and similar programs may be aware. The idea is to create impersonal conditions such as isolation, temperature extremes, noise, nudity and sleeplessness that wear on the victim in a way that avoids the direct physical confrontation of rubber hoses and hot lights. Also, by indirectly torturing a person, such techniques avoid giving the victim an adversary upon whom to focus their resistance. The goal is to make the victim himself his own worst enemy as his body breaks down under the indirect environmental conditions. With these techniques the real effects of torture take place internally instead of externally. And if you are a Fascist control addict and punishment freak who wants to avoid the appearance of overt, direct torture, techniques like isolation that force the victim’s own body to work against them and break them mentally are the way to go.
“Torture will be used on political dissidents in this country, that is clear now, and PFC Manning is the first, but there will be others.”
We can take that to the bank.
It is very clear the direction that this is heading. The military wants a false confession from Bradley Manning that can be used for something else. There are a lot of candidate strategies for the “something else”.
Thanks, Jeff. And all those of you who can get out to Quantico.
Slight correction – it’s John Walker Lindh.
I really fear they’re hellbent on destroying Bradley, a la Padilla. I also think Assange is as good as dead, and wonder why he hasn’t been murdered yet.
POTUS Barack Obama ( D Party ) is SoD Robert Gate’s boss. POTUS Barack Obama retained Robert Gates as SoD from POTUS G.W.Bush (R) WH.
Donald Rumsfeld is quoted from 2003 while G.W.Bush (R) was POTUS — Donald Rumsfeld was SoD under a Republican run WH.
The United States Marines are part of Pentagon run American militarism that SoD Robert Gates runs for POTUS Barack Obama(D).
We have a POTUS — Barack Obama — who is leader of the D Party who is allowing his SoD Gates and his WH run Marine Corps to do to American soldier Bradley Manning what they are doing. POTUS Obama is allowing this. A Democratic Party POTUS.
POTUS Barack Obama — a Democrat in the WH — has the power to not do what he is allowing to happen to Bradley Manning. To stop it. Not permit it. Discipline or dismiss those who are doing it.
Why is POTUS Barack Obama (D) allowing the Pentagon,his SoD Gates and the American Marine Corps to do so?
This should not be D Party vs. R Party POTUS kabuki.
If G.W.Bush was wrong to do this stuff then Barack Obama is as well.
Unfortunately, history and myth are working against US citizens in understanding the torture that is going on. Historically, the US has been relatively prosperous and has never been beaten by a foreign force on its own soil. Mythically, American Exceptionalism stands in direct opposition to the reality of US torture: Because the US is good, by definition it can’t be the agent of something so evil as torture. As long as US citizens are not confronted with a more powerful external force (as the Germans did on the battlefields of WWII and the courtrooms at Nuremberg) and continue to identify with their own domestic oppressors, history and myth will probably throw trump over legal, ethical or other practical considerations.
I’d like to make sure you know about the fine folks at CCRJustice.Org in NYC.
The irony is that an actual terrorist like Jared Loughner isn’t treated in the manner that Pfc. Manning has been treated. The person who is partly responsible for a chance of democracy in the middle east wallows in a condition not befit for a murderer.
Kafka has a few ideas, but he ain’t talking.
Thanks. I didn’t bother to double check bc I thought I remembered it accurately. Will try to be more careful.
He was most certainly the canary in the coal mine.
I think that you comment points up another thing. Americans appear to think that revenge is just fine and confuses it with justice. The problem with revenge is that it engages one in a never ending cycle of violence and barbarity.
Stark contrast indeed.
The military also used solitary confinement on Conscientious Objectors during WWI. I knew a survivor of this in the ’60s. They kept him in Solitary for at least a year.
Came across this at Huffington weeks ago, if you haven’t seen it already:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-brenner/obamas-war-on-wikileaks-a_b_797612.html
“The casual way that Americans are shredding their liberties is breathtaking.” [snip] “The American collective state of mind has become incapable of making the elementary, basic distinction between personal preference and law. To raise the matter with colleagues and friends is to elicit responses dictated solely by what one thinks of Wikileaks, Assange and their doings. That is a logical non sequitur and ethically obtuse.”
These kind of people are not only narrow minded and shortsighted, they are also mean of spirit and lacking totally in morality and ethics.
I think many people now realize that Bush is a sociopath lacking in both morals and ethics but he has used his psychological disability to corrupt the morality of the whole nation. such a thing is rather unprecedented except in banana republics and other despotic regimes, and even there the oridinary people have the desire to live in peace and harmony with their fellows helping rather than hurting their neighbours. What in heaven’s name has happened to Americans?
I want to look more into that. If you have any links to more info, it would be appreciated, although I can do some research of my own. I’d like to include such info in future articles.
Thanks.
You may be right, but we have no alternative but to keep trying. American Exceptionalism is also being challenged by the stressful reality of everyday American life. The Vietnam experience also seriously wounded the concept.
We shall see.
His Article 32 UCMJ pre-trial hearing is supposed to be coming up in the next two or three months. But we’ll see.
Political or domestic assassinations entail a huge political cost. It is not clear that they feel so powerful that they can do this without incurring a major shock. At least that’s my reading. From their standpoint, I imagine they would like better to have him in prison, humiliated or cowed, the better to send a message to others (as they are doing with Manning).
After all, O’Brien didn’t have Winston Smith killed, either, did he?
You definitely get it… a well-written summary of the points about psychological torture I’ve been trying to make.
Absolutely!
Yes, they are definitely among the good guys, and have done a hell of a lot to fight torture and defend against injustice, especially in regards to Guantanamo.
Indeed. Vietnam was the first crack in the facade.
You’re right. We shouldn’t stop trying. I was only trying to calculate the odds. :)
>> Bush is a sociopath. Or you meant was?
It becomes a was now that G.W.Bush left office in Jan.2009 and Barack Obama became POTUS in Jan.2009.
>> What in heaven’s name has happened to Americans?
Many of us voted for Barack Obama to follow G.W.Bush — looking for the change(s) from G.W.Bush Obama was selling and offering (supposedly) yet Obama has proven himself to be little different or better than G.W.Bush.
In many ways Barack Obama is a R Party ” WH centrist” in the WH in all but name who is doing what G.W.Bush did,continuing it or building on it.
Obama is doing as a D what can be described as R-Lite to be nice as he caves in to R Party politics easily. Or if you are being more honest — Barack Obama is a Betrayer of those who voted Obama into the WH.
What is being done to Bradley Manning is on Barack Obama’s WH watch.
70 years of war and fear? Fascism, torture, authoritarianism, fundamentalism, distrust of others, and the rejection of law within a permanent state of exception: Scratch this surface and one invariably finds fear.
Thanks for covering this. What I enjoy about blogs, especially your posts, is that, apart from gaining a better understanding of how the world works, they help me question and articulate all the crap that is kicking around in my head. :)
David Dayen is upstairs!
Where the Proposed Foreclosure Fraud Settlement Falls Short
Worth pondering, from Scott Horton yesterday:
So let me get this right. If they are coming for you, don’t assume fair treatment or that you will survive or at least that you will be safe from becoming a drooling vegetable of a person. So what is the pecentage in it for you to submit to their authority? If the authorities have no respect for the law, then it seems there is no law and you are not duty bound to follow it.
Try to get this picture posted all over the intertubes:
http://i56.tinypic.com/21oy7o3.jpg
Might shake something loose.
Jeff, if there’s any way this picture can be useful to you to put pressure on Obama, feel free to use it – they say a picture’s worth a thousand words…
http://i56.tinypic.com/21oy7o3.jpg
I don’t know if I’ll use it, but it’s an amazing photoshop picture, and does make the point.
Heh. I see astute commenter Harpie already quoted this. Sorry, Harpie, for not reading your comment carefully enough. Well, what’s a blog post w/o the author committing at least one blunder ;-)
Hi Jeff! I think it’s great Horton’s important words were emphazied again. I wish they’d get printed in the NYT! :-)
Thanks for all you do!
“Cruelty disfigures our national character. It is incompatible with our constitutional order, with our laws, and with our most prized values. Cruelty can be as effective as torture in destroying human dignity, and there is no moral distinction between one and the other.” “Where cruelty exists, law does not.”-Alberto Mora, the former Navy general counsel