I realize that bringing this story may seem like snatching low-hanging fruit and throwing at you, but yesterday I did find that the (ahem) evolving stories told by the US and ISAF officials were interesting, but the obfuscations and lies probably meant more to me after having written ‘Never Move in a Tactical Fashion…’ the other day.
My guess is that there isn’t a soul here who believes anything other than what ‘we’ are doing to nations in the ME and too many other places around the world is anything but hideous, and that these chickens are indeed already coming home to roost: we are hated and feared over much of the planet, and ‘we’ are creating enemies almost exponentially by each sick and barbaric deed ‘we’ commit.
Some of this anchor’s euphemisms are irritating, or worse, but at least a little more of the truth is surfacing now. BBC News had more this morning on the six dead as protests swell.
Different narratives will work their ways through the various media reports, and through the Muslim world at large, so I’ll give the details a pass. We’re too used to ‘So sorry’, ‘we’ll investigate, ‘oops; inadvertent’ declarations from ‘our side’, or Karzai’s ‘values of Islam once again degraded’ songs to even register them by now.
But this new outrage is a good opportunity to give a larger context to the recently leaked report that things just aren’t going very well for the US and ISAF there, though that no-duh information is even surprising, except for the one-liner about the Taliban being ‘poised to take over’ once ‘our troops leave in 2014’. Emptywheel assesses the leaks to the BBC, probably rightly, as military officials wanting to make sure ‘we’ remain in Afghanistan even longer.
Now, Americans and the MSM can pretend to believe that ‘we’ are leaving in there in 2014 (two more years???), but that’s another charade. Obama did announce in his recent SOTU that troop withdrawals would allow his military to pivot to the Pacific where we understand that he considers: that’s where the big action will be soon. To back up the new Pacific Rim trade deals he’s promised US military presence, and God knows what he and Hillary imagine about a ‘Chinese threat’; we won’t even go there. Smaller actions via AFRICOM in Somalia, Mali…let’s not think Iran for today.
But ‘negotiations’ are underway between Hamid Karzai and Leon Panetta over the shape of the US presence in Afghanistan after 2014.
Gareth Porter reports that what’s not at issue is that ‘our help’ will consist of Joint Special Operations Command forces and ‘air power’, which means…bombs, either delivered from the awesomely newly enlarged Bagram airfield, and…more drones. Another is night raids…oh, do the Afghanis hate them. ISAF forces bust in the doors in the small dark hours, and take men away to Bagram Prison. Some are released after a few days, and some…are never heard from again…just disappeared like vapor into the air.
During the most recent jirga in November, 2011, there was fairly full support for Karzai demanding an end to them, or allowing local forces to round up suspects. Panetta has said ‘no dice’; Karzai is allegedly holding firm. But here’s the thing: even Karzai gets that his rule will likely end once ‘our’ military can’t hold back the tide of Taliban, local militias from the North and others fight for control of the country, or even divide it up eventually.
Playing hardball even further, Panetta apparently indicated that unless Karzai backed on his demand to end the raids, ‘the US could leave even before 2014’. Porter writes that the issue might give Karzai a little leverage to demand that if he holds firm, the Taliban end suicide bombing, the planting of mines, and renounce Al Qaeda.
From Porter:
“Meanwhile, popular Afghan anger at U.S. night raids has continued to grow as the pace of those raids has risen steeply in recent years and thousands of families still suffer the consequences of long-term detention because of the raids.
Haji-Niaz Akka, 48, a shopkeeper in Kandahar City, told IPS about a 2 a.m. raid on his home almost eight months ago in which U.S. forces tied up all four males in the house and took them away. Two of them were released two days later, but the other two, his nephew and son-in-law, were taken to Bagram Airfield and remain in detention.
“These night raids violate our customs,” Akka said, expressing a common Afghan view. “It’s better to be killed than to be searched at night while sleeping with [one's] wife and kids. This is absolutely unacceptable.”
Bagram. O, Bagram. Another sticky wicket in the SOFA negotiations. You may remember that a year or more ago, when Congress appropriated funds to enormously enlarge the airfield and other facilities, including the Parwan Detention Center (cute euphemism, yes?) at Bagram, the US announced it would be turned over the Afghan government. Turned out…it wasn’t, and the timing is an issue. Karzai wants it now. Our friend Victoria Nuland at the State Department says:
“We need to do this in a manner that is maximally responsible. That’s what we want to do. And we’re going to… keep working on it.” Hard work.
Bagram Nightmares must haunt the Afghan population; reports of torture and mistreatment abound, and there are even dark names given to different sections of the prison, whispered among the people in horror and loathing.
From Al Junnah on Jan. 8, 2012:
In a new report, “Afghan investigators have accused the US Army of abusing detainees at its main prison in the country, saying inmates had reported being tortured and held without evidence. The findings come days after President Hamid Karzai called for the facility at Bagram air base to be handed over to Afghan control within a month.
The US says it will examine the claims. “We take seriously and investigate all allegations of detainee abuse,” a spokesman for the US embassy in the Afghan capital, Kabul, said.
The head of the commission investigating abuse accusations, Gul Rahman Qazi, said prisoners had complained of abuse including beatings, humiliating body searches and being exposed to extreme cold.
“During our visit to Bagram some of the prisoners talked of misconduct, some alleged they had been tortured,” he told a news conference in Kabul.”
From rawa.org, a little more:
“Der Spiegel reported in 2009 that cases of abuse in the Bagram prison pre-dated and inspired torture techniques employed in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison, Iraq. Military prosecutor Stuart Couch said “the Bagram facility made Guantanamo look like a nice hotel.” The continued allegations of torture at the Bagram base make a mockery of President Obama’s much vaunted words
“that under my administration the United States does not torture.” (MSNBC)
The U.S. is not alone in torturing prisoners in Afghanistan. The British also stand accused after claims made by detainees from Muthana prison, where abuse and torture was described as “routine and systematic” by Human Rights Watch. Mutahana was closed following revelations of torture that included electric shocks, sodomy, and suffocation.”
Johann Hari writing at The Independent spoke of Obama’s secret network of prisons in Feb. 2010. We have been encouraged to think all this has ended, but it’s seriously haard to believe.
After quoting Campaign Obama promising to shutdown Bush’s network and end kidnappings, and showing how Obama has instead increased them (and this was two years ago, mind you. Hari told some stories of Afghanis ‘vanished’ after night raids by ISAF/JSOC forces:
“Where are all these men vanishing to? Obama ordered the closing of the CIA’s secret prisons, but not those run by Joint Special Operations. They maintain a Bermuda Triangle of jails with the notorious Bagram Air Base at its centre. One of the few outsiders has been into this ex-Soviet air-hangar is the military prosecutor Stuart Couch. He says: “In my view, having visited Guantanamo several times, the Bagram facility made Guantanamo look like a nice hotel. The men did not appear to be able to move around at will, they mostly sat in rows on the floor. It smelled like the monkey house at the zoo.” [snip]
Today, Bagram is being given a $60m expansion, allowing it to hold five times as many prisoners as Guantanamo Bay currently does. Gopal reports that the abuse is leaking out to other, more secretive sites across Afghanistan. They are so underground they are known only by the names given to them by released inmates – the Salt Pit, the Prison of Darkness. Obama also asserts his right to hand over the prisoners to countries that commit torture, provided they give a written “assurance” they won’t be “abused” – assurances that have proved worthless in the past. The British lawyer Clive Stafford Smith estimates there are 18,000 people trapped in these “legal black holes” by the US.”
Sigh. Robert Fisk at The Independent muses in a pretty snippy, bitchy piece about a concert in Lebanon by the man, “’If only Hague and Clinton would listen to Yusuf Islam’… So rather than trying to suss out the twisted words in his piece…I give you Yusuf.
And God or Allah or any other potentially saving force or collective consciousness…save the world from ‘us’ and our leaders’ darkest angels.
(cross-posted at kgblogz.com)



23 Comments




The only conclusion I can accept is that the military is doing night raids and torture because they like and enjoy it. Nothing else explains it. It’s just horrifying that we are doing this to our fellow human beings for no reason. I think of the children and how frightened they must be all the time. Panetta can pretend that we are leaving but I don’t believe it. I signed a petition this morning asking that the military budget be cut – specifically for Special Forces. Thank you, Wendy, for always speaking out.
Also thanks for the video. Have the song on my computer and listen often when I get really desperate.
Well, wendy, you’ve, once again, said it all.
We are diligently ensuring that we are hated and despised.
There is no doubt, at all, that someday, sometime, the war will be brought to the “Homeland” … with a deserved and inescapable vengeance.
It will not be simply domestic repression, although that will continue and increase, it will, finally, be our time to fully understand the horror of war.
That horror does NOT stop, for the weekend, of for holidays … it goes on and on …
Both of us, you and I, have seen comments justifying the killing of civilians, at least the adults, with the caveat that the children, being killed, as well, is simply … “unfortunate”.
Now, some of those commenter made clear their conviction that America deserved no less a fate …
It is sad that so few voices raise similar dudgeon regarding how we might NOT share that same fate, how we might change, and begin to undo the damage, certainly not the death and destruction …
When it is said of America, “Kill them all and let Gawd sort them out …” at least there is a clear consensus that it will be deserved, except for the children, whose deaths will be, simply, unfortunate.
Recommended to the conscience and humanity of all who have the courage, and the stomach … to look in the mirror.
Thank you, wendy, for daring, so bravely and so magnificently, to ever and always, speak to the truth.
Not only do I respect you for so doing, I love you for refusing to “temper” or “sweeten” that necessary and timely honesty which is your fierce, loyal, and proud, true self.
DW
The good ‘ol US of Antagonism, out there spreading freedom and democracy.
I had to go to see the Fisk article and got a chuckle out of the title of another one of his pieces: “An attack on Iran would be madness, so don’t rule it out.”
Another good one Wendy.
rec’d
OK, well I can’t get worked up about koran burning. The muslims going nuts are the same ones who seemingly had no problem destroying ancient buddha statues not mention stoning women.
Although the headline is about burning korans, I think Wendy’s main point is we’re not making progress, we are pissing people off.
True.
Another great post, wendy…!
Did you see Pepe’s latest… Real cowards go to Tehran
Welcome, Twain. I always love your strong conscience being willing to imagine the hard and true pictures. Hard to shake off the perversions of it all. I did leave out this quote; there are so many like it:
“Zahir Jan Ustad, a resident of Kandahar’s Panjwai district, is still angry about two of his brothers being detained in two separate night raids in Kandahar City and in Panjwai last September.
“We don’t know why the Americans are disturbing us by night raids, which we hate,” he told IPS in an interview. “They are coming at night and searching our women. Our women are our honor, and we really hate [the United States] for that,” Ustad said.”
The ‘searching our women’ brings some pretty dark images when we hear so much Ugliness and Perversion. Sometimes to prepare for these diaries, I pour over the photos online, so many of which give me the shivers, and a sick stomach.
This site is pretty sensitive about using not-Creative Common pix, or I’d be tempted to bring them in.
As far as cutting funding for Special Forces, I’m afraid every bit of news is that there will be more and more, and more mercenaries; one General, and I’d meant to google for the story again for this, wants a great expansion for ‘his team’ and JSOC, so they might operate far beyond the ME. So…good on you, but…no, dear Twain. And if something like that grew politically expedient to cut, we know they’d just hide it somewhere else in the budget.
Congress approves of Budget Magicians in the end. Know nothing, See nothing. Whooosh.
Awesome video, isn’t it? I’ve looked hard to identify the wonderful chorus with him, but never have found out, sadly. Kinda silly, but sometimes when I write, I need bright ones.
This is one; makes me laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1sNyXOt604
Whoa, Nellie, DW. Pretty hard to know what to say to that big old vote of confidence except: Thank you, but it’s only your good heart that makes any of it seem so. But still, how kind.
And you have me pinging, for certain, about some of those comments that I couldn’t even make sense, of, seriously.
As for the horrors we will face, my only hope is that our nonviolent revolution can stop these monsters before they rain havoc upon us; I have six grandchildren, DW, and I’m weeping for them right now as I read your words.
Other than that, this is the only music I can offer you as an echo. It begins slowly…hold on…feel the portent in the drumming…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE-NGGP_dOo
Love your USA version, dear hotdog; reminded me of Taibbi’s ‘Supreme Court of Assholedom’, LOL!
They pay that man for such stuff? Reminded me of Tevye: ‘Well, there is this, but on the other hand…but then…on the other hand… Passive-aggressive ass-covering, imo. Cripes. We showed him, didn’t we, by loving the song and giving it a whole lot of play today?? ;o)
Glad you stopped by; always nice to see you.
To add to hotdog’s correct take, I’d add that burning any books is a travesty, and they could have been given to the mosques or local leaders for distribution. And we don’t know quite who destroyed the statues, but yes, some Muslims stone women, cut off the hands of thieves…none of which excuses ‘our’ bad behaviors, especially knowing how sensitive Muslims are about their holy texts. Urinating on Korans was a technique used in ‘extreme interrogation’ or whatever that euphemism was.
IMHO, of course. ;o)
It looks pretty liberating, Tuttle! He must do a bit o’ drinkin’ while he pens some of these. ‘So long, Towel-heads’ (kinda/sorta leaving Iraq) about made me…well…you know, lol!
Thank ya, dear. Got me grinnin’. (I needed that.) ;o)
*heh* If Pepe is indeed imbibing, I’ll buy him a beer or two to help the cause…! ;-)
First thing I thought of was the problem with having evangelical Christians gaining power and positions of authority within the military. It would never occur to them that this would be offensive, because they have no respect for anybody else’s religion.
Ya might have to spring for mescal, worm and all, methinks, Tuttle. His metaphors do some serious trippin’, LOL! ;o)
Point taken, RedWA. Add in that they are ‘The Other’, but then factor in that they’re supposed to have training in ‘How to Win Hearts and Minds of the Indigenous People’… Guess they missed the classes.
Guess I have to go with the atmospherics around a prison like Bagram; well…maybe any prison, really. It’s not hard to imagine how clearly the lines are drawn between The Good Guys and The Bad Guys, and the insane disrespect for the ‘enemy’, and the fear that enemies are, for instance, writing secret messages to suicide bombers…er something.
But yes; those rifles with Bible verses stamped on them were a whole ‘nother level of sick crapitude.
“And we don’t know quite who destroyed the statues…”
But if the truth be told, it had, just had to be Israeli Zionist fanatics. They are ultimately responsible for all of the bad stuff that happens in the world. If you don’t believe me, ‘The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion’ describes in exacting detail the Jewish/Zionist roadmap for world domination.
Hey, I’m on your side with one and just trying to be helpful and demonstrate, as you know, that our Islamic brethren would never do such a dastardly, cowardly thing to another religion’s iconography.
“Now, some of those commenter made clear their conviction that America deserved no less a fate.”
Good on you.
Your comments are irrational, doremus, and again you attempt to paint me as a bigot, as you tried to paint me as a Nazi-sympathizer.
Much like a cadre of whiny African-American bloggers called me a ‘slavery apologist’ a year or so again for saying I was beginning to be able to see the merits of the ‘South should have been permitted to leave the Union’, after days of debate on the subject.
You have issues which I can’t help you solve, doremus.
But silly me; I took this as your final word to me:
doremus35 February 19th, 2012 at 12:25 pm «
“As far as your erudite German: ‘It is a shame you are not on the scale of the problem to comprehend.’…I’ll just allow that diss to stand on its own, thanks.
A more faithful translation would be:
It is a shame you fail to understand the magnitude of the issue.
And in deference to the warm relationship we once shared, I too must say:
Aufwiedershn ma chere femme.
Der Vorhand ist auf unserer Reise durch die Zeit zusammen zu schiessen.
Trans: The curtain must close on our journey through time together.
Goodbye and ‘god’ bless you and your loved ones for all eternity.”
You are not here to advance argument civilly, and I object to your concern trolling.
wd
“Your comments are irrational…”
Really. It’s not just what’s on the lines that’s important. It’s what’s in between the lines which is most telling of truth.
“and again you attempt to paint me as a bigot…”
No, actually I would never call you a bigot-to your face or back. But according to your own words it would appear that anyone who did so would have to get at the end of a growing line.
“You have issues which I can’t help you solve, doremus.”
Wow, now who would have the chutzpa to call that an ad hominem attack? Surely not I.
“But silly me; I took this as your final word to me:”
I lied.
“You are not here to advance argument civilly,…”
I didn’t use any words which could not be said before a 14 year old, did I?
And since when are you the ‘god’ appointed gatekeeper of what is and what is not ‘civil’ either here at FDL, or for that matter anywhere else in the universe.
“… and I object to your concern(sp) trolling.”
You objection has been noted.
And a difference of opinion is just that, a difference.
FYI: A troll is a being, mythical of course, who lives under a bridge and eats children.
Of course, if you say they exist in your neck of the woods, who I am to question your credibility?
“…god’ bless you and your loved ones for all eternity.”
Yes, I did mean that most sincerely, and will say it again:
Bless you and your family.
@doremus35 February 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
You lied. How glib is that admission, and how quickly you skate by it. I knew you would not keep to your ‘curtain is down’ thingie, as you were never held accountable to what you said on M’s thread, nor did you apologize. Like a third-grader you said, ‘He started it!’, which in your mind excused it. No. I thought all those flowery words were just bullshit, and would lead to nothing good.
You paint all Muslims as One Enemy of Israel (or other cultures/religions, can’t be sure), you paint all Germans as Nazis. You make no attempt to see them as other than two-dimensional bad cartoon characters, which would take self-examination (a trinity of moral judgment, understanding and maybe forgiveness) in order to see any differences in others, I guess.
Hope you find your too-clever-by-half words comforting, especially your *knowledge* that there is a long line of people considering me a bigot, and that I act as a ‘minor deity’ and ‘gatekeeper of civility’. My point was that you’re not on this thread to *advance the discussion*, but to throw more rocks at me.
No doremus; I don’t begin to accept your phony drive-by good wishes; they are toxic as all giddy-up. The others can buy into them as real, or pretend to, but I knew you’d do the same thing again; I just missed my guess about how soon it would be.
Keep the curtain down; it works just fine with me.