The fire season, much like hurricane season, has become increasingly longer due to the effects of climate change. As I’m writing this, the National Interagency Fire Center (NIFC) is reporting that there are thirty-seven large fires in progress in eighteen different states. They include full suppression and resource managed fires. About 2,600,000 acres have burned this year, while last year’s tally was over 5 and a half million. There’s a lot of fire season to come, and coupled with the drought many areas are experiencing and the massive amounts of beetle-killed pines and spruce…it’s expected to be a real pip.
The weather has been cooperating with suppression efforts; some areas in the Southwest have gotten a little rain, but the forecast is for higher temperatures and thundershowers to develop over the Great Basin and Rockies.
Our local fire here in SW Colorado once again made me very aware of how important air support is to fire suppression, and most especially the slurry bombers dropping retardant to aid fires from getting out of control early, and also for providing help around the edges to aid the ground crews stop it from spreading further. Creating a fire line means removing vegetation down to bare dirt, often by hand, using tools like short hoes (pulaskis). Backbreaking work it must be; our son, who spent five years as a hotshot, agrees.
This was the fourth time our mountain has caught on fire over the decades we’ve lived here, and I’ve witnessed up close what the planes and helicopters, whether dippers or skycranes can accomplish.
The first morning after we were evacuated, I watched the fire…it barely had laid down all night, but by dawn…it was at least subdued. I was sure that any moment I’d first hear, then see the slurry bombers coming to the rescue.
But no; the first plane didn’t arrive until noon, and by then the fire was going full-tilt-boogie; then another plane, but they were the small SEATs (single engine air tankers), with a limited retardant storage capacity of 800 gallons. Some helicopters valiantly tried to stanch the flames, but by then the fire behavior was extreme. Where was the four-engine jet we’d seen the day before, dropping thousands of gallons of slurry on the lower end of the canyon, diving down low like an eagle after prey, delivering its load instead, then zooming up into the sky away from the flames and plumes of smoke? Please, I begged any forces that might hear me. Help stop this fire!
As it turned out, the bulk of the fixed wing air support had been diverted to other fires, probably to the massive High Park Fire near Fort Collins, CO, and to the new fire in the mountains west of Colorado Springs, in which over 32,000 people were finally evacuated.
For years the Forest Service had been plane-deficit. Had they really not secured enough planes by now, especially given the forecasts of hotter and dryer summers, higher winds, and the on-again, off-again ‘controlled burns’ to mitigate the danger of the standing dead forests that would go up like Roman candles were lightning to strike them?
In 2002, the Forest Service had either ownership or under contract, 44 fixed wing slurry bombers. This year they began with a fleet totaling 11. Eleven for the entire nation, and one of them crashed early in June on the Nevada-Utah border, killing two; a second was grounded after it was forced to make an emergency landing at a Tahoe airport when its landing gear failed to engage.
The Denver Post says that of the nine remaining planes, all P2V’s, eight are at least fifty years old. You can read about the history of the depletion of contracted air tankers there. The story in a nutshell is that since 2002, when two of the ancient, cumbersome planes crashed, killing five, a blue ribbon panel issued a scathing report on their findings, and calling for the FS to modernize the fleet, increase inspections, yada, yada. In 2004, 33 more planes were grounded when they failed their safety inspections. A 2009 Inspector General’s report called on the Forest Service to retire the fleet by this year; the planes would no longer be financially viable to maintain, nor airworthy.
Last year, the FS canceled its contract with Aero Union for six large Orion P-3’s, citing the company’s failure to meet contractual obligations. The photo of a P-3 here is amazing; they helped put out several fires here and at Mesa Verde National Park; the giant orange, navy and white monsters were a sincerely welcome sight.
In July of 2011, Bill Gabbert, writing for Wildfire Today, said that companies were reluctant, or downright refused, to contract planes to the Forest Service because they wouldn’t put them under exclusive use contracts, and only offered Call When Needed contracts (CWN), and didn’t offer minimum hours/days guarantees even then.
Tom Tidwell, head of the Forest Service has maintained that they have plenty of air power, given that if the need arises, they can call area Air National Guards for extra help. That part appears to be true; NIFC says that:
“Six MAFFS C-130 aircraft and support personnel have been activated to support wildland fire suppression operations. The MAFFS are from the 302nd Airlift Wing, Colorado Springs (US Air Force Reserve), the 146th Airlift Wing, Channel Islands (California Air National Guard), and the 153rd Airlift Wing, Cheyenne (Wyoming Air National Guard). The aircraft are operating out of Colorado Springs, CO, and Cheyenne, WY.”
In addition, Tidwell announced on June 13 that they will retire the old fleet ‘by 2021’, and have contracted for three new next-generation planes in 2012, four more in 2013, all the four turbine jet engined 2 BAe-146s. in the process of modernizing their fleet in order to retire the old P-2’s.
According to the Post:
“In addition to the planes on contract, the Forest Service has mobilized eight other large air tankers, including four CV-580s from Canada, one CV-580 from Alaska and one DC-10 that can carry 11,800 gallons of retardant that is fighting fires in Arizona. Two CAL FIRE S-2Ts are operating on an agreement with California and are available only for use in that state.
That means the agency is able to deploy 17 tankers with three more due this summer, said Jones. “
Two can only operate in California, where I’m sure they will see plenty of use soon. It appears that the FS is now willing to consider another contract with Aero Union for the Orion P-3s, which CNN recently reported were still sitting on the ground, and could have been mobilized in 4-6 weeks. It would seem that after these pilots, Todd Tompkins and Ronnie Chambless were killed when their air tanker crashed on June 3, the Obama administration and the FS reckoned that it was time to do something to expand the fleet.
On July 2, a C-130 loaded with a MAFF system crashed in South Dakota; the President called them heroes.
From the Huffington Post:
“In all, eight workhorse C-130s stand ready to fight destructive wildfires around the country — but all are grounded due to rules governing the use of the nation’s aerial firefighting resources. The new purchases, meanwhile, won’t help firefighters battling destructive blazes in Colorado, New Mexico and elsewhere in the West for weeks, if not months.
“Getting into large, multiple wildfire scenarios, there’s just not enough (aircraft) to go around in the current state,” said Chuck Bushey, past president of the International Association of Wildland Fire, a professional association of people who fight wildfires.”
From Gabbert, re: the seven next-gen tankers over the next two years, which is all that Congress has funded:
“It doesn’t come close to fixing the problem,” he said. “Experts say we need 30 or 40 or even 50. This decision should have been made 10 to 20 years ago. They knew this day would come. Most of the Western U.S.’s fire season hasn’t even started yet.
“When the West really gets into the fire season, that will be the proof.”
In other GOOD wildland fighter news, the petition to ask Obama to allow firefighters to purchase federal health insurance worked; he announced his order to that effect yesterday. Good job, to all of you who signed the petition.
In 2002, an ancient C130 that fell apart in midair:




26 Comments

All for want of a nail…! 8-(
Aloha, wendy…! Kudos for getting Obummer’s attention…! 8-)
I’m headed out shortly to this little soirée…! With 26 candidates that said they’d be there, my only worry is that we do have more people, than candidates…! ;-)
Aloha, dear. (This might be more like ‘for want of a horse’, but I get your drift.)
What a cool array of multicultural faces, Tuttle. Enjoy! And…loads of people signed loads of petitions, but we might have helped, eh wot? ;o)
” he announced his order to that effect yesterday. Good job, to all of you who signed the petition.”
Very nice, well done Wendy.
B.C.: one of these days this is going to go up in the biggest fire in human history:
“The tiny beetles have already destroyed about 163,000 square kilometres of timber in B.C. — an area more than five times the size of Vancouver Island. The province estimates it has spent about $600 million in the last two years to fight wildfires.”
that was a year ago. it’s worse now.
163,000 square kilometres. astounding.
Glad to see that the Forest Service is getting some upgraded resources.
We were a tiny bit of the effort, weren’t we, mafr? But the thanks go to the Tatanka Hotshots. ;o)
Holy smoke; that’s scary biscuits. The one point i neglected to make was how much $ would be saved if the tankers could get fires out early. Boatloads of money.
Gabbert at Wildfire Today called it ‘analysis paralysis’; I think it’s deeper than that. This has all become a big political football from Michelle to Josh Marshall defending Obama, talking of some report proving air support is…sorta useless. Oy.
Actually, this was initially going to be in answer to your statement about ‘humans can no longer put out the fires’, or close, on one of my posts. It got me pinging about how many events and political decisions have gotten us where we are today. I actually started with the ’53 overthrow of Mossadegh in aid of…BP; but I got kinda lost, and even this one was hard enough for my brain in its current condition. Anyway, this is a hideous spot to be in. And the men and women on the ground have to work so much harder.
Good luck there with the weather; ya have me wondering which conifers though. Guess I can google when I have time.
A few, anyway, THD. Likely not nearly enough. Thanks for reading. ;o)
tweeted and recommended with thanks wendy. jeebus this is horrible — thank you for bringing this to our attention and your excellent reporting
Welcome, Suzanne; and thanks for reading and tweeting, though I’m still not altogether sure how that works. ;o) I do hope I got it right. There were so many plane types, gallons of storage, numbers killed…and conflicting facts in the links. But I think, in the end, I got it mostly sorted out.
Scary biscuits, and again, the short-sightedness is sick, and really causes you to wonder how much a part job politics plays through it all. So often the ‘don’t make waves and advance your career’…rules.
Morning, wd. Thanks (I guess) for the unsurprising news about our diminishing tanker fleet. The situation is even worse than I had imagined. If only drones could put out fires . . .
As someone who has lived in the West for most of my life and seen fire season start earlier and earlier (kinda like Christmas decorations showing up in the stores the day after Halloween), I’ve been thinking that we ain’t seen nothin’ yet for 2012. We’ve had what looks like a brown marine layer surrounding us here in Chico for the past couple of days, not to mention some spectacular sunsets. It’s because of the Sites Complex fire about an hour southwest on the edge of the Mendocino National Forest. The article mentions “air drops” but I don’t know if that included C-130s. Maybe so, since there are not too many fires in California – yet. Mike Carr of Cal Fire said they are expecting good luck (i.e., full containment of the Sites fires) on Friday the 13th. I hope he’s right.
California is a serious concern, hfc. And nice to see you.
NIFC links to California Fire Data, which mentions 6 helicopters, 40 ground crews, 88 engines, a dozen tender trucks. Five fires in the complex, the Grapevine being by far the largest.
Sounds as though it must be a good spot for bulldozers (23) to scrape a perimeter; that’s great, imo.
Opinion about what ‘fire season’ might be now is varied, but some say the equivalent of ‘all year’ and ‘whenever fires want’. We’re starting to see mudslides here, which is an enormous problem in CA, given the amount of houses perched on hill- and mountain-sides. Arrgh. ‘Long-legged houses’.
If you get a chance to see a skycrane, they’re amazing. Big straw out the belly; they dip it into water and suck up a load…then splat it out over the fires.
Stay well and smokeless as you can.
love,
wd
p.s. I’d think you could just click into the site for updates, and NIFC for other fires with links to CA Data.
Interesting post Wendy but i’m suprised that you are perpetuating the myth that these large tankers are actually that effective in fighting large fires. There is a good reason wildfire professionals call them CNN drops because they only appear to be effective and look good on the news.
This Shock And Awe firefighting may make victims of fires think they are being helped but all it really does is divert scarce resources from the ground crews who actually put the fires out.
The forests of the world are burning due to GW and mismanangement and there is not much that can be done to stop their destruction. People who live near the forests will see this destruction first hand and no fleet of tankers will do much to stop it.
You may not have read that carefully, wayoutwest, but at the top I said that their main uses were hitting small fires early so they *don’t* grow into large fires, and for hitting the perimeters to prevent spreading. They’re also being used increasingly to drop slurry near housing areas, increasingly a problem as Westerners want to live in the mountains.
Please see the links to Wildfire Today (long-time professional wildland firefighters) and the quotes from the numerous studies about their efficacy. Josh Marshall mentioned a 2008 study saying they’re about useless, but I think that was an outlier.
I’ve seen what they’ve accomplished here, at at the huge fires at Mesa Verde Park. My son did five years as a hotshot, and I know he was grateful to them, save for the twice a clown pilot dowsed them with retardant…twice. The helicopters are helpful, too, but they reckon an air tanker, depending on storage capacity, is worth about a dozen copter dumps, though they’re closer to water. There need to be more places to refill the tankers, and the MAFFS apparently have no self-loading mechanism, slowing them way the hell down.
You must know different firefighters than I do. And the ground crews are irreplaceable, and those crews have also been cut back. Dunno what else I can tell ya. Different takes apparently.
Although I do like to hear pro’s and con’s relating to use of technology, I think I will take your position on the larger planes.
And though this next comment may seem too woo-woo for some people, I have to wonder what is up with the Chemtrails. I water my yard, yet three hours later, every plant is dry to the bone. I look up in the air, and the fleet of planes at 20 to 30K is chem trailing the heck out of the sky here in Lake County.
Those who look into Chem trails talk about dessicants being in the mix. That explains why in the winter, no matter how impregnated the sky is with black clouds about to birth rains storms, the clouds either dissipate or else move east and away.
One firm asked inside a bid to the Federal government for 10 billion dollars for the use of 70 planes to be spraying the Chem Trail stuff in the air, 24/7 across all of the USA. That was about six years ago. Now every county in the USA is experiencing this phenomena. So how much money is being spent on the program? (Black ops part of the Fed budget, certainly.)
If we had just a fraction of the monies used on Chemtrails planes, to instead fight fires, we would all sleep easier. Believe me.
Jayzus, elise; in the tradition of: ‘if I had a memory I’d be dangerous’… Not long ago I sent hotflashcarol a link about chemtrails, and the info was fairly strong that they exist, and what they are about. Since I was in a hurry, I didn’t even read the piece, thus haven’t a clue what was in it.
I promise to ask her if she remembers, and if she can dig it out, okay? There are some issues on which we’ve long felt like wackjobs for wondering, considering…even believing. Then we discovered they weren’t just paranoid fantasies, but actual doings.
Consider burying massive amounts of toxic chemicals in the ground…poisoning the soil, the water, killing children…we might have thought back in the day that no one could sanction it, no one could possibly DO it. And yet…
love to you, elise; and stay strong,
wd
And don’t forget: Your National Guard Is Awake! ;o)
OMG, elisemattu, another member of the tinfoil hat brigade. I am a fellow “trailer,” I guess you would call it. Here are a couple of links that are very informative and one of them is even “mainstream.” So it must be true. I mean what are you gonna believe, the weathermen who refuse to acknowledge chemtrails, or your lyin’ eyes?
http://www.naturalnews.com/034906_Bill_Gates_geo-engineering_chemtrails.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/06/bill-gates-climate-scientists-geoengineering
How great you showed up! I meant to email ya soon, but I…I…fell asleep instead, lol. Did you read the comments at Natural News? This was my face, though I’ve looked at the Morgellons…too creepy to blog about…eek.
“Bill Gates is an arrogant moron who thinks the world belongs to him and other sick cretins like him. Instead of using his vast wealth for the benefit of humanity, Gates is using it to HARM people through toxic vaccines, chemtrails and so on.”
He shouldn’t hold back, should he? ;o)
Thanks for this report, Wendy; I’ll do my best to pass this info on to my firefighter friends. P.S. to all – IMO, NEVER start a grill or recreation camp fire during times of high winds (backstory later ;)
Welcome, timestickingaway. As my friend said, it’s election season, and Obama doesn’t wanna get challenged on THAT one during fire season. ;o)
Can’t wait for the story. Eeep.
Glad to see you “on” this, wendy.
Now, I expect the same results as your efforts to get federal health insurance for the “seasonal” fire fighters. That is, if anyone in Dee Cee has a functioning brain and/or an operable conscience.
Supreme good on ya … and more power to ya!!!
(I have been imagining Obama has been on the phone with Rahm Emanuel asking if there is a word for them what get reason “across” and responsibility “warmed-up” on the “backside” … and further imagine that there word AIN’T gonna be much bandied about … ‘cuz it would just back-fire … and I suspeculate that Obama is, already, as it were, “feelin’ the heat”.)
Again, your diaries are, always, a very much-appreciated must-read …
Thank you, lass.
Recommended to everyone at FDL … since any one of us could find ourselves in the path of “natural” or man-made disaster. And, it would certainly be “helpful” if OUR government had the actual means of dealing with it.
DW
Well, DW, it’s always a case of ‘from my diaries to OBomba’s ear’. Well…maybe not always, but Hope does spring infernal, I’ve been told. ;o)
I think taking advice from Rahm is frequently where ya go wrong, unless your that *sort of person*. Guess he is, isn’t he?
Welcome, dear. And they did save all the houses and barns here, even with a dearth of air support. Those ground crews and helitack pilots: awesome.
Wendy, i guess it was your headline that got my attention because these big tankers do have their uses however limited. The LA Times ran an excellent article in ’08 about how politicans are intrefering with FS decisions on tanker use.
You mentioned the cutback in the number of crews used and this may be a more important issue than the tanker story. We had 6000 firefighters and support crews on the 187,000 acre Marble Cone fire in California in ’77. This was before the GW effects were evident but the FS was beginning to address the mismanagement problems. The Native Americans managed the area with yearly fires for centuries but once they were removed the forest reverted to a 30yr extremely destructive burn cycle.
Like your son i visited some incredable places, Ventana Wilderness, Tassajara Hot Springs/Monastery, and help to save peoples homes and water supplies.
There is a huge story here, we are going to lose a large part of the western forest to fire and much of it will not recover. I was in Alpine
AZ last year the day before that fire and made a side trip to the Gila. There was no new growth in the 6yr old burn area east of the recent Baldy fire.
Wendy, here is my “Proof” of the existence of the phenomena:
I live near Clear Lake, the largest body of water inside the ste of California. if I take a ten minute walk, I can sit at a picnic table in a trailer park and watch the ducks on the water, the people out there fishing and all that.
This spot sits on the shoreline of the lake, and as I gaze out, I realize the lake is sitting between two ridges. So imagine a large bowl – with ridge to the southeast being a right hand border for a clock. Ridge two is WNW, and is a border to the left hand side of the clock. This ridge is known as Mt Konocti. And imagine me being at where the six on the clock would be.
Important fact in the below discussion, the two ridges are separated by a distance of some 9 to eleven miles. Mostly lake between them, for m my six o’clock viewpoint.
Several summers ago, probably 2009, I would see a plane skimming barely above the right hand ridge. So we are talking about an elevation of between 4,400 and 4,700 feet. The plane then climbs to a height where it becomes mostly a large speck in the sky, so it is traveling upwards to an altitude of maybe 25K to 30K feet.
Then that same plane ends up barely skimming above the shoulder of Mt Konocti, the “ridge at the left hand side. So it has gone back down to 4,900 to 5,100 feet.
I should point out that chem trails are being emitted the whole time.
Now ask yourself: What plane is allowed to do this? Would the FAA let a plane carrying commercial goods or passengers do this?
Would our military? No, of course not – no planes are allowed to do this, over a residential area, unless there is an emergency taking place. Yet the above scenarios would be repeated all DAY LONG!!
We have a fire burning north of where I am typing this. It is in thee Mendocino National Forest, near Letts Lake. Some ten thousand acres have already been burned. No one is even discussing this fire – at all! We had a full report with film footage of a 200 acre fire near Sacramento yesterday. But no mention of this.
We are going to lose our forests, due to the Republican notion of the empty bathtub idea of economics and governments services. (And let’s face it,the lovely Democrats in power give lip- service to how they are appalled by cutting such services – but we had a Dem Congress from 2006 to 2010, and we had a Dem Oval Office occupant from 2008 to 2010 to help them, yet these policies stayed in effect.)
Anyway it won’t be an empty bathtub of dried up government agencies — it will be a burnt earth, with nothing on it.
Here’s the CalData site on the Mendecino fire. Damn; 38% contained.
Whoosh; scary behavior for a plane in any event.
If I happen upon any relevant information, I’ll find you, okay? Need Wikileaks on this. Sorry to be so long away; I got detained by RL.
Thank you very very much. The TV stations only report on the events that are easy and cheap for their news staff to get to. Like a two hundred acre fire near Sacramento in the news the other night.
The fact that this fire consumed 24K acres means nothing. The news stations are underfunded, and now spend 60% of their time covering “news worthy” events like release of a new iPhone, or a new restaurant!