The financial pages are buzzing this morning with the Big News that Sandy Weill, 79, said in a CNBC interview that the big banks should be broken up, and made a few other great suggestions, leaving out, of course: ‘Prosecute the Fraudsters! Hang Em!’. Andrew Ross Sorkin’s shock was largely due to the fact that Weill was one of the Kings of Mergers, creating a mega-corporation by marrying his insurance and investments Traveler’s corporation to Citicorps, with a global reach that seemed to have astounded the financial world. He was one of the major forces behind KILLING Glass-Steagall under Clinton; some thought at the time it was a dare for Congress not to pass Gramm-Leach-Bliley, and well…you know it went from there (adding in the effects of the CFMA).
From Linette Lopez at Business Insider, some amusing questions to Geithner:
“And in this world of instant communication, his words were news the instant he spoke them.
That means that hours later, Congressmen on The Hill questioning Tim Geithner had a new song to sing — ‘let’s take a look at Glass-Steagall’, a law repealed during the Clinton Administration that separated investment banking from retail banking. The crazy thing is, this song was coming from both sides of the aisle.
Representative Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) mentioned Weill’s comment in her opening statement to Geithner and that got the ball rolling. She said that his words were “absolutely huge,” and asked Geithner to write a report on how 2008 could have been prevented had Glass-Steagall been enacted at the time.
After that, member after member picked up the torch. [snip]
Michael Capuano (D-MA), a fiery member of this committee to be sure, said “funny how people who voted to repeal Glass-Steagall are now complaining that banks are too big.”
Ms. Maloney toughness: Write us a report, please, Timmeh. Our Secretary of the Treasury said…he hadn’t seen the Squawk Box interview, so he had no clue as to what Weill meant.
Chris Dodd said told Squawk Box that forcing the Big Banks to downsize was simplistic, saying that it’s not the size of an institution, but the amount of risk it carried on its books.
“…Citi’s former chief was wrong to call for an end to financial supermarkets. “Just breaking up the banks is not the solution,” Dodd said, even as he insisted the tools of Dodd-Frank could, in extreme circumstances, force a systemically risky institution to break up.
“The legislation allows for that Draconian step to be taken if necessary, not just with banks but with institutions that pose substantial risk to the country,” Dodd said. “They have the power and authority under this legislation to actually do that.”
The former Democratic senator from Connecticut is now the head of the Motion Picture Association of America, the top trade organization for Hollywood studios. Along with Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Barney Frank, Dodd authored legislation that sought to curb the excesses of financial institutions labeled “too big to fail.”
Pretty hilarious, since we were told expressly that Dodd-Frank was going to create standards for systemically important and dangerous banks, and provide mechanisms for doing exactly that, and …er…not one of them has been broken up, though the risks are far greater than ever. (Sheesh, Chris; wonder when those final rules might be decided, anyway?)
“Sandy Weill’s office once displayed a hunk of wood inscribed with the words “The Shatterer of Glass-Steagall:” (link) nytimes.com/2010/01/03/busi…
“Sandy Weill: Break up the big banks (so I can rebuild a TBTF one for myself and break it up. Rinse. Repet (sic).”
“Maybe CNBC can now get Angelo Mozilo to go on and say banks should make mortgages based on current incomes, not future home appreciation”
Yves quotes Charlie Gasparino, and agrees with him:
“….it’s hard to take Weill seriously. First this is a man with an ego the size of the bank he created. People who know him say he needs media attention like an alcoholic needs a stiff drink, and he’s gotten precious little of it since retiring from the banking business six years ago. Yesterday made him feel like the same old Sandy again.”
In the end, though…I’m gonna go with her final paragraph here (my bold):
“But I think the significance of Weil’s volte face is a bit different. It’s a reminder that talk of reform is cheap and without consequence. Would any of these former Big Names who would love to be hauled out of mothballs (ex John Reed, who never liked the limelight and I believe in genuine) be serious about advocating change if they thought it really might happen? This isn’t a sign of a break in the elites, this is at best pandering to the 99%, or adopting a faux provocative position to get some media play. Look at how the British regulators, who have been at least willing to talk tough about banking and pushed hard for a full split between depositaries and trading firms, are in deer in the headlights mode over the Libor scandal. This isn’t just being caught out at having missed a big one; there is an astonishing inability to leverage what should be seen as a God-given opportunity to put reform back on the front burner.
When I see someone like Weill or Dick Parsons putting a big chunk of their ill-gotten gains to fund lobbying or a think tank promoting tough-minded financial services reform, I’ll give the backers their due for making a sincere and serious effort to undo the considerable damage they have done. But absent that, this career death-bed conversion is a hollow and insulting gesture.”
It’s all pretty fun, given various reactions all the way from ‘Wow, this is a major game-changer!’ to…well…’It won’t change a thing, what a tool!’ And what do you think? Will regulators ever designate a Big Bank as TBTF?



39 Comments

Damned puppet show.
Rec’d, Wendy. I must agree with Ludwig, although I believe some of the puppets have long since forgotten about the strings. They live for this sort of intrigue. Sounds like Sandy needs to be whacked on the head with that chunk of wood so he can regain his oligarch cred.
‘Lecacy-shopping’ doesn’t even come close. I liked Keiser’s “so I can rebuild a TBTF one for myself and break it up” best, lol!
Sure is a lotta great snark out there about it, lol! My mouth aches from laughing. Yeppers; that four-foot portrait story was a pip. (Doesn’t look like a link; I’ll fix it)
Think o’ the people the prick could feed. Mammoth ego? Wot? LOL!
Gar Alperovitz recommends nationalization of the TBTFs and credits conservative economists at the University of Chicago (of all places) for the idea.
They’d make good fertilizer, is what Mr. HFC says. But I’m not sure they are even good for that.
I would judge this a limited hangout at the most. What would it take to convince me? I dunno. Lee Atwell seems to have had a deathbed conversion, and I’m pretty sure Bernie Madoff had something like one, too.
Seppuku? He’d probably have an ulterior motive for that, too. I’d go with a detailed confession and prison time before I would give this guy any cred.
Goddamn it. That’s not what Alperovitz is doing. He’s showing that even the compradors at UC had to admit the limits to their bullshit.
Get real. They don’t get credit. They had to steal it.
Good on Gar. But designating them TBTF is the catch, isn’t it? Will there be a massive change of sentiment next time? Just zipped by Dean Baker’s post. Only glanced at two of the three choices, lol. Might be worth going back to it.
As far as the Chicago economists he named, it’s interesting. True conservatives (and radical ones) can share beliefs with the radical left, for sure. Just scanned it, wigwam, but we sure need to start talking about banks as utilities, I think.
Wasn’t thinking Sandy Soylent Green food, darlin’, but his filthy lucre feedin’ folks, lol!
Q: In comedy, what’s the most impor –
A: — Timing.
This is obviously a distraction to take our minds off the Olympics (he waited until after the Home Run Derby). The hidden vigorish is that Weill wants to rebifurcate the banking industry so that investing/trading can be part of the 2016 Summer Olympics, coincidentally when professional golf returns as an Olympic sport.
(Huh? Well, a few years ago my bank’s branch manager was kindly notarizing some documents for me, and our conversation made me think to quote Woody Allen, so I said, “Woody Allen says that ninety percent –”, and while he was writing, the manager completed the quote, ” — of acting is showing up”.)
He sure tried hard to seem earnest, HotFlash. It’s just toooooo hard not to make sport of it all. We are just soooo screwed; the Elites could care less. Gonna get way worse before it gets better, too.
Chris Dodd said told Squawk Box that forcing the Big Banks to downsize was simplistic, saying that it’s not the size of an institution, but the amount of risk it carried on its books
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uhm WRONG CHRISSY
if they were not TBTF….the taxpayer would NOT have coughed up the $$$$$$$$$…fukstik!
Maybe Michael Phelps put him up to it? (In case he loses one event) ;o)
So it’s a ploy to have Investment Banker teams v. Ye Olde Main Street Banks? Wow; the hedge funders’d make mincemeat outta them! Cheat?? My stars!
Cool Woody/banker story, Mr. HighDef. ;o)
Olympic golf? What next, lol? Never knew (Sorry. I was made to learn to play golf; hated.every.minute.of.it.)
the Sandy Weill who had
THE MOST EXPENSIVE EVER APT in Manhattan? oh that Sandy W
glad your domicile survived the fire,and reccd….best of luck
Didja see where he’s workin’ now? Chris Dodd: Hollywood Mogul.
Thanks, dear; we were sooo fortunate, and slowly gettin’ our emo shit together. Little less crazy every day (well…almost)
been there…hug the critterz
Per Alperovitz:
Golf was an Olympic sport in the early 1900′s. (Oh, in my youth I was a golf instructor at a summer camp in upstate NY, a guest dining room waiter there the summer before, and a busboy at hotels before that. I could carry and serve six poured cups of coffee — trays were verboten for serving. My CV’s were color-coded depending on the interview.) ;o)
Mr. HighDef is fine (since we’ve been properly introduced already, WD), though the plume spells out HD. Linguistic drift: like pornography > porno > porn, whence High Definition > High Def > HD.
When I chose it (2006) HD-DVD and Blu-Ray were competing formats. HD-DVD lost and is obsolete. I can’t decide if I chose smart or dumb. If I were dishonest, I’d say BlewWreigh was already taken. ;o)
(Incidentally, in ‘HD Radio’, it stands for ‘hybrid digital’, which isn’t at all High Def, but don’t tell the kids.) ;o)
Aha! Perhaps you could be M.sixtasses! That’s purdy impressive, and I waited a lotta tables in my life (with trays). Man, them upstate New Yawkers mustta been snotty ones, eh?
And…er….that’s wendydavis to you, son. (no space) ;o)
At least back then golfers wore some cool threads, eh? My golf: only par I ever got…I’d accidentally teed off a par 3 with a putter, lol!
The fucking Soviets nationalized their banks in 1918. Alperovitz is using these monetarist assholes for shock value. BTW, the fuckers were required to advocate nationalization to suit their flawed theory, which eventually became a religion and Schwartz, co-author w/ Friedman, critiqued Bernanke for persisting with monetarism when Keynsianism was called for.
Tired of this fucking market prestidigitation.
Likely a result of the Pecora Commission’s findings, yes? Sounds like he played banksters like a tiger with a mouse. I didn’t know that the term derived from those times, and it seems JP Morgan claimed the same thing Weill did as far as being incredible boons to the little people of the world…or something. ;o)
I’ve been slowly working toward writing a bit of an open thread based on a diary at anticapitalist.com whose premise is that it’s time to move forward with ideas/versions of socialism, or a mixed economy that would be more acceptable to Americans who actually like to own some things, but could enjoy socializing other institutions.
So many groups (including Occupy working groups) seem to be doing a lot of studying/teaching toward the big changes that are on the way.
Anyhoo, thanks for bringing that, wigwam.
Superb diary, wendy.
Can’t wait to see that diary.
Capitalism is just about as “fixed” as it is possible for anything to be.
If we do not soon finish with it, then it will finish us.
DW
Oh yes …
Recommended to the conscience and serious consideration of every single human being at FDL … for it is our future, our world, and our lives and the lives of those whom we love, that are on the “line” … the quarterly “bottom” line.
Enough of “more of the same” … how much more evidence of abject failure is necessary before the last nickel … that “they haven’t their criminal, fraudulent little sticky paws on … “drops”?
DW
You probably saw that HR459 Full Fed Audit passed the House yesterday 379-98. All 98 were Democrats.
Here’s the roll call. Cripes; gatekeepers to the Kleptocracy.
Just a bit of a lark, David, but too hard to resist since there’s so much buzz about it. I’m sure others than I will make that diary sizzle if does; I know zero about Marx, Trotsky, et.al, but the piece I was referencing maked it seems that forward it better in any event, so…
By the by, dig out my DoD Gitmo Drigs post; Jason and Jeffrey came by late to say thank ya to those of us praising their work. Nice, eh? ;o)
I keep asking for a “list” of “Good Democrats” … so … one imagines, that NONE of those 98 would be on it?
Should make compiling the list, short, and easy … if not “Toot Sweet”.
On second thought, lets take as loooooong as possumble, that way hope becomes a commodity that may be speculated upon … again and again.
Petty, chiseling, cheap, and useless suck-ups, I calls ‘em, wendy.
“Gatekeepers” seems too dignified and possibly … useful … which the political class IS … to the sociopathic, “elite” 1%.
Well, don’t wanna wear out muh invectives, so I’ll dease and cussist.
DW
Which means all Repukes were for it – but those fuckers don’t know shit about the economy, so on their side it’s all politics and bullshit LaRouchite anti-Jew/Brit conspiracy. That’s the Repuke escape hatch.
Pardon my rage.
I saw that Jeff and Jason stopped by.
Both are not only superb at what they do, they both are truly thoughtful and easy to converse with. I value their friendship very much, as I value ours, wendy.
The bullshit is much easier to combat (and survive) with wise friends who understand and care about each other and all of the important things … that really matter.
DW
Don’t mind the rage, dear, but I’m scratching my head at your contention. Think what was discovered in the first single-time audit; they must know what was exposed.
I may be naive, (okay, prolly am) but I can’t think ‘anti-Semitic’ stuff would cause them to vote for it, and unless you reckon they were free to since the Senate will never pass it, nor, imo…if it did, would OBomba sign it…that argument if it were electoral theatrics I might buy a little bit.
How do you describe the Dems who voted Nay then? I’ve been trying to picture the members of the Black Caucus doing so, for instance…
If I start with the more temperate answer, I’d say that Critter X might be good on some issues, horrid on others, and we judge them in toto, then we might vote for Crittr X over Critter Y, tra la la. And yeah, there’s a 3rd CD CO dem i’ll vote for over the present ignorant prick.
But having said that, for God’s sake! We’re fightin’ for our lives, and those of our brethren, for you kids and my grandkids, for the planet, for enough healthy food and housing for all; and clean water, jobs, a living minimum wage. And they dick around funding wars of choice, unnecessary ‘austerity measures’, and can’t even vote to audit the Fed? Reigning in that supreme corporate give-away machine is tops on my list.
Really I’ve pretty much given up on electoral politics, so I rarely even look at roll calls.
I remember back in the day I started a post wondering what happens to seemingly otherwise decent folks who get elected to Congress, that slightly exalted layer between The People and the MOTUs. Dropped it as painting with too broad a brush, but the power and lucre must be soooo seductive. Kucinich, Sanders, a few others may be exceptions to the lures, but still..
And I value your friendship, too, David.
Look, I’m just reminding you that one side is more evil than the other. Same with Syria, etc.
The anti-Jew/Brit stuff in the Repukes base would certainly be an excuse for them to locate all the evil in the Fed. The Fed should be audited, but the fact that no Repuke could have qualms about scapegoating the FED should be alarming as well.
And no, I think they want it passed. But the compradors have profited well by abetting the larceny and they want to pile all their shit on O’Bummer.
The Dems in opposition are of course protecting O’Bummer.
Sorry, DW, should have been to Wendy.
Ah; compradors come in flavors. Now I understand. ;o)
Ugh.
soooooooooo tru dat
Your judicious use of syllables is so admirable, dear. ;o)