Aplogies to all: this is cut and paste; can’t think what more needs to be said, really.
From the NY Times:
“While no one has been prosecuted for the harsh interrogations, a former C.I.A. officer who helped hunt members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan and later spoke publicly about waterboarding, John C. Kiriakou, is awaiting trial on criminal charges that he disclosed to journalists the identity of other C.I.A. officers who participated in the interrogations.”
At least we can admire the consistency of OBomba’s Department of Justice and Attorney General. Torture, commit massive financial fraud, assassinate by drone with impunity, but by God, open legal fire on, and imprison…the best whistleblowers and leakers who dare to put their lives on the line to bring us The Truth of what’s going on.
And yeah, it sucks that the title of the Times’ piece is ‘No Charges Filed on Harsh Tactics Used by the C.I.A.’ (my bold), but Shane does get to the gist of the yesterday’s announcement by the DoJ:
“Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. announced Thursday that no one would be prosecuted for the deaths of a prisoner in Afghanistan in 2002 and another in Iraq in 2003, eliminating the last possibility that any criminal charges will be brought as a result of the brutal interrogations carried out by the C.I.A.
Mr. Holder had already ruled out any charges related to the use of waterboarding and other methods that most human rights experts consider to be torture. His announcement closes a contentious three-year investigation by the Justice Department and brings to an end years of dispute over whether line intelligence or military personnel or their superiors would be held accountable for the abuse of prisoners in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.”
From the DOJ website,, the AG’s statement:
“BACKGROUND ON INVESTIGATION:
On Jan. 2, 2008, Attorney General Michael Mukasey selected Assistant U.S. Attorney (AUSA) John Durham of the District of Connecticut to conduct a criminal investigation into the destruction of interrogation videotapes by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
On Aug. 24, 2009, based on information the Department received pertaining to alleged CIA mistreatment of detainees, Attorney General Eric Holder announced that he had expanded Mr. Durham’s mandate to conduct a preliminary review into whether federal laws were violated in connection with the interrogation of specific detainees at overseas locations. Attorney General Holder made clear at that time, that the Department would not prosecute anyone who acted in good faith and within the scope of the legal guidance given by the Office of Legal Counsel regarding the interrogation of detainees. Accordingly, Mr. Durham’s review examined primarily whether any unauthorized interrogation techniques were used by CIA interrogators, and if so, whether such techniques could constitute violations of the torture statute or any other applicable statute. [snip]
“AUSA John Durham has now completed his investigations, and the Department has decided not to initiate criminal charges in these matters. In reaching this determination, Mr. Durham considered all potentially applicable substantive criminal statutes as well as the statutes of limitations and jurisdictional provisions that govern prosecutions under those statutes. Mr. Durham and his team reviewed a tremendous volume of information pertaining to the detainees. That review included both information and matters that were not examined during the Department’s prior reviews. Based on the fully developed factual record concerning the two deaths, the Department has declined prosecution because the admissible evidence would not be sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt.”
Times again:
“The Justice Department did not say publicly which cases had been under investigation. But officials had previously confirmed the identities of the prisoners: Gul Rahman, suspected of being a militant, who died in 2002 after being shackled to a concrete wall in near-freezing temperatures at a secret C.I.A. prison in Afghanistan known as the Salt Pit; and Manadel al-Jamadi, who died in C.I.A. custody in 2003 at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, where his corpse was photographed packed in ice and wrapped in plastic.”
And in a brief spate of political calculation from The Times:
“Mr. Holder’s announcement might remove a possible target for Republicans during the presidential campaign. But the decision will disappoint liberals who supported President Obama when he ran in 2008 and denounced what he called torture and abuse of prisoners under his predecessor.”
He got it right on the fuckkedness of the first calculation, not the second. Americans don’t really care much about the issue. And OBomba still sends prisoners to other dark op prisons where he knows they’ll be tortured, only he has parsed his ‘The US no longer tortures’ truthiness, having written a memo that ‘short renditions don’t qualify’…or something as banally evil. (I’ll document it if ya make me; otherwise, I’m enveloped by ennui for now, and too feeble to go for the link I brought a few posts ago. Have a heart…or not.) [Update: I remember where it is; in the NY Times puff-piece on Terror Tuesdays, and OBomba's 'hard moral decisions' or whatEVer.]
Holder again:
“Mr. Durham and his team of agents and prosecutors have worked tirelessly to conduct extraordinarily thorough and complete preliminary reviews and investigations. I am grateful to his team and to him for their commitment to ensuring that the preliminary review and the subsequent investigations fully examined a broad universe of allegations from multiple sources. I continue to believe that our Nation will be better for it.”
Me, too, Mr. Holder; you betcha. Americans are great fans of the comfortable lie; not so big on the truth. So most will conveniently believe ‘we’ll be better for it’ until they come for us. The world watches us in befuddlement, and does not approve.



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“Harsh investigations.” Isn’t that a Cheney term?
Gotta love the New York Times Pravda these days.
Well, it’s not like the US tortures people like Assad does or anything, right?/s
I did ‘control F’ the piece to see if the word ‘torture’ made its entry; it did, twice (as in the quote once), but in attribution to a notable personage. But yes: scribes R us.
Nopers, nor Bahrain, Saudis, other ‘friends’. Thanks, too, for not making me search my word.docs for OBomba’s clever memo; a quick google didn’t turn it up.
The Most Exceptional Nation on the Planet!
WE will live (or die) to regret these deeds done in our names.
I new you would jump when you seen this additional “white out” of our newly evolved Americana tradition to forgive and forget our trespasses ASAP.
No evidence, no discussion, no prosecution, no foul; lets all move on forward and trust that we’ll be nicer next time, with liberty and justice for all tra la la.
Just makes me want to salute the flag. I hate it when my finger does that. Rec’d
Anyone see The Good Shepherd (2006)? Spartan (2004)? State of Siege aka État de siège (1972)?
Was Ramsey Clark the last US Attorney General (1967-1969)?
I read about it, put my nose back to reading about a whole ‘nother post on political cognitive dissonance, self-perception theory, political rationalization, arousal states, and more fun stuff. All by way of a light investigation.
Hours and hours passed, and I finally.gave.in. Could.not.help.it.curse.my.very.bones.
It’s not even the results, oh, no. It’s the fucking pretense that Durham might just find something ‘new’ or ‘overlooked’.
And just in time for OBomba to polish his Warrior Cred (you know, there was that one tiny lingering thing that might have been held against him by some knuckle-draggers. Now Fred Thompson call vote for him with zero cognitive dissonance discomfort.
Nope. I wasn’t gonna get vexed; sorry. Business as usual.
No on the films, darlin’, but thanks for the lovely reminder of Clark. Think, too, how awful it was that so many of us exceptional americans turned Ramsey into a punch line for all his work. I didn’t know about his father and SCOTUS.
A quick perusal of his involvements made me think that he mirrors Glenn Greenwald, calling out injustice everywhere. Too freaking ludicrous that ‘the Left’ loved Greenwald when he called out Bush misdeeds, then turned on him for calling out OBomba. Such rigorous hypocrisy.
If they want to call bygones and look forward on such things as torturers, banksters, war criminals, election fraud and illegal surveillance, why not “just look forward” on the whole 9-11 incident too? C’mon that was more than a decade ago.
Now that’s a Trojan Horse of a different color, UCT1. ‘Wagons HO! There’s a planet to conquer! Citizens to control! Revenue streams to usurp!’
eric just volunteered to become a war criminal also along with his boss,
May the ghosts of the innocents haunt his ass to the grave. When justice comes from outside maybe he’ll have a cell next george junior.
With them closing one door the CAT requirements now allows any country in CAT to prosecute the war criminals. Don’t make any travel plans eric the war criminal
Aloha, wendy…! The Rule of Law no longer exists here…! Lady Justice weeps…! 8-(
Btw, speaking of the CIA, an interesting CIA study has seemingly leaked out… US Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East?
Not familiar with acronym of “CATS” Can you explain (or anyone else here, for that matter.)
I take it the mewing, in-and-out-the-door-then-back-inside creatures are not what is being referred to.
Post-It note to wendydavis:
Once a month I re-read Joan Didion’s very brief 1965 essay, “On Morality” … ;o)
They said that about Bush. Did he change his travel plans? Would anyone dare?
There are good reasons the US never joined the ICC.
I reckoned he/she meant Convention Against Torture, elise.
Uh-oh; that ain’t makin’ much sense to me, Tuttle. I’ll need way more time to read it. I’ll not even try to characterize it now. But you think it’s for real, I take it? Not a faux leak misdirection?
At least we can admire the consistency of OBomba’s Department of Justice and Attorney General.
Well, yes.. in light of there being little else to admire there is this consistency.
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She jerked my chain hard, my friend; I read it twice, and need more more more to come close to beginning to grok the fullness of it. Didion the moral philosopher. My stars. Pinging with images now, which is what she meant to have happen, luckily.
Her caveats to the ‘okay, fines’ at the end…ring like crystal bells, don’t they?
Pardon me for spending most of the day with nakedcapitalism.com’s side subject “New Zealand” – oh my, oh my! Talk about Glass-Steagall, my little homeland did a doozy in 1995 with respect to setting up entities that look like banks but aren’t, and the chickens are presently coming home to roost. Thank you, nakedcapitalism for following that!
No, nothing to do with the topic at hand, but all this forgiveness of past crimes, and as UCT1 says, “looking forward” could accomplish much worthier goals, such as student loan debt forgiveness, a fresh start for underwater homeowners, peace not war, that nifty home retrofit idea that’s win/win for renters they’re doing up in Canada – (oops, wrong diary – you can see that one at kgblogz.com)
I mean, if we’re moving forward, let’s really move forward! I wonder who Jill might choose as Attorney General?
Tip of the hat to juliania who brought this Pierre Sprey piece at Counterpunch to my last post at kgblogz (the Empire v. The People one).
Weapons and Wall Street transactions. Cool basis for a true Peoples’ GDP.
Gotta rebuild all this from the ground up, clearly. It’s too out of control to tweak from within.
Col. Lang at SST had posted it recently…! Btw, b at MOA posted this excellent bit of news… IAEA: Iranian “Nuclear Danger” Decreased The ‘new’ IAEA report is out…! ;-)
We take even Cold Comfort where we find it, no? Read the Joan Didion piece AitchD left; think it might bowl ya over, walkinboots. Bad timing, though; I can’t get the images outta my noggin, especially the Mountain Meadows Massacre and well, lots of them. Boys in deep pools…
Sorry.
The one I loved, ncbb, was:
“But the decision will disappoint liberals who supported President Obama when he ran in 2008…”
Upraised pinky as this disappointed liberal reflectively sips her afternoon tea -not! Unfortunately it is simply more of the same sameness; I can no longer be freshly disappointed; nor as luck will have it do I have that smidgeon of hope it would take in order to BE disappointed. That ship has sailed beyond the blue horizon.
Yet still, we must, for the record, for history, for our great-grandkids, say: these unpunished international crimes are not being swept under the rug on our account. Somebody else wants to have this happen and we citizens decry it with all the passion our single voices can muster. We did not want, we do not want worthy heroic whistleblowers to be prosecuted while the true criminals are forgiven! This is a travesty of justice, and you, sir, are no attorney general!
Recommended.
Your post reminds me, CTuttle, that I did find extracts from President Morsi of Egypt’s speech in Iran at the NYT – strangely not the entire speech available by googling. One of the phrases that stood out with respect to Syria for me was “peaceful transition” to be achieved by “active intervention”. ( I am guessing that would mean not bombing the population to smithereens.)
Another segment advocated full membership for the Palestinian state and a ‘cease and desist’ to the ‘difficult conditions imposed by occupation that contradicts all the norms and principles of international law and human values and human rights.’
Also, reforming and broadening the Security Council at the UN.
And finally, a call for the entire region to become non-nuclear as far as weaponry but able to use the technology for peaceful means.
My goodness, but that would be terrible for our GDP!
That’s from Amano? Will sure read that later. Only days ago Reuters was quoting him as saying: there will be no breakthroughs, yada, yada.
You’re bring lots of homework, dear. Hope I’m up to it; RL is spinning like a Whirling Dervish here…
My fave Persian, Cyrus Safdari provides some great Cliff notes on the IAEA report, M’dear…! ;-)
I’ll be writing a post later on about it…! I’m babysitting my 1 yr. + 1 day old Grandson today…! *g* He’s keeping me mighty busy…! ;-)
Do spend your time with him, dear Tuttle. The boards can wait. (I love babbies to distraction; wish we’d been rich enough to adopt a whole baseball teams’ worth of em.)
The Better Half just asked me why he lies there so easily for me for a diaper change, she said that he always squirms and fight her attempts…! ;-)
he can take Ambien,like the Colon Powell
Wow and yikes, Tuttle. How can I say this delicately, so as not to offend ya?
Given that Mrs.CTuttle is with you, saying ‘I’m babysitting, etc.’ should have earned ya having yer hat handed to ya, had she seen ya say that. With all due respect, of course.
But as for diapering more easily, maybe you sing better songs, or else ‘it’s a man thing’ for the bairn.
(‘The Better Half’; wendydavis shakes her head…says ‘Oy’.)
I always have called her the Better Half…! My Mom even agrees…! ;-)
I just did two loads of laundry, so yes, I do have the right to claim a 50% share of the load…! ;-)
Thanks, wendydavis, for your many good and thoughtful posts here….even if some of us (hanging head) were less than supportive with some early glitches. You bring so much to this gathering. I am deeply appreciative. And, yes, Holder is a worthless person. Obama is going to have to scramble after offending his base time and time and time again.
Ya great idjit! Even if she weren’t ‘yer better half’, disregarding her contributions and presence was what I was on about!!!
(Simmer down now, wendydavis; not all men were exposed to, married to… Accidental Feminists, more is the pity…) Pace, Tuttle.
;oP
Your words are simply staggering, Dearie, and I thank you for them.
Many of the charges against me, like ‘nuking the site’, were simply untrue, but again, the convenient lie was easier than the inconvenient truth. Even knowing that, I made my apologies, which…weren’t adequate. Other untrue charges I try to blow by, keep my head down…and write, given that this site offers me a wonderful opportunity for expressing my own view of events, our society, and personal stories.
If you ever had a reason to hang your head about anything you may have said or done toward disapproving of me, it’s forgotten and forgiven. You are a class act. I do forget some screen names, but yours I’ll try to remember, Dearie. You’ve made my day. (Well, that, and the Joan Didion piece my friend HiDef left me, lol!)
love to you, and stay strong,
wd
As clear as the ring of a crystal bell inside a hall of Tibetan brass.
Quite the essay indeed!
And she was right when she wrote those words, although, I doubt many were aware of it.
My imagination kept circling the image of the young, pregnant wife, waiting, watching . . hoping..
Am sending you an email to the address you once gave me.
Thank you, WD.
This is another of your excellent diaries, followed by such a wonderful thread of comments and links. I don’t know how you slam them out, one after the other. I can barely comment in a timely manner!!
Sleep well, when you sleep. And please … keep writing, WD.
GO TO HIS HOUSE AND PROTEST
THAT IS THE ONLY WAY HE WILL GET THE MESSAGE
RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS ON HIM AND RELATIVES
Yes, the boys in the pool…and the radioactive light. When I was a child, and older Bostonian woman took a few of us to Castalia, Ohio, to see and hopefully marvel at a deep, deep pool of water. I’m sure it was known to special somehow, but as I remember, the claim was that it was bottomless, thus…a bit terrifying.
Between that, and memories of almost flipping my clogs in fear when I first saw the immense rush of the Niagara River toward the falls, it seems I can be haunted by water. Odd-bodkins, since I was raised on Lake Erie, swam like a fish, did synchronized swimming in HS, etc.
I left my email for you on my Posterous; I’ll take it down once you’ve acknowledged receiving it. And…thanks for da love, bootsie. Returned in spades.
....tinnnnnnnnnnnnnggggg….
The worst & most corrupt Attorney General in the history of the country.
His Covington & Burlington resume and multinational clients might have indicated…whose interests he would serve, and serve very well, normanb.
Again, thank you Mr. President for your rigorous consistency in these matters.
Well. He did kind of telegraph this was his intent. Not that it makes it sting any less … but promising blanket absolution for those who crafted and carried out our torture programs was pretty much the first of many significant reversals that happened as he pivoted from “Campaign Obama” into the craven asshole who holds office today.
[I'm sure the fact that Clinton/Gore were up to their eyeballs in crafting key aspects of the program - and that key Dems appear to have been involved every step of the way had a bit to do with the decision.]
Rec’d on the fly, wendydavis. I see you were up until the wee hours. Hope you are sleeping well. Much love.
Sigh; I know, but today…yesterday…the abhorrent disconnect between Mr. Transparency Craven Asshole and his war on whistleblowers…seriously got my goat again. I’d even dug up Greenwald and Mayer for further outrage spikes.
Yes, the Gangs of Six and Eight or whatever are indeed all part of it, but most own shares in the MICC Machine, illegally deal arms to nations under sanction, etc.
And as Glenn says: ‘Yet blanket absolution and legal indemnification for banks.’ Wow, it’s harsh.
Forward, HO!
My stars.
Sleeping well, but…not for long. ;o) Dreamin’ like a mofo, though, which may help my bitchy off-kilter stuff some, and a few other practices kinda seem to be helping. ‘Weirders R Us’. Er…me, anyhoo.
Hope the fires and chemtrails there are easing up, and yer headaches ‘r on the down-low.
Sending good thoughts, prayers and love to you and yer family,
wd
Hey girl, your working too hard as always. lol
Take a well deserved break and come over and play Spades. Chebetts wanted a truth card. You might see the infection of the numbers people thru the crystal looking glass.
LOL! You imply some confidence in me that…I may not embody, amigo. I’ll see if I can contribute, but meanwhile, my friend Quinn Esq just put a thrilling post on a new green housing housing project in Manitba he’s been working on for the past twenty years (among other sustainable energy projects). You’ll love it.
He posted it at Home; I didn’t cross-post this dreck to dim its brilliant light. ;o)
Of course, just a suggestion; a soft bait presented gently to you for consideration. Thought you might want to see the world thru Didion’s crystal images you spoke of. ;^)
Hey Wendy. I put that post up you suggested. Then tried to correct the time it was showing…. which now seems to have disappeared it…. ha! That’ll teach me to try and do things right! Anyway, sorry to butt in…. but here’s the link. Ta!
http://my.firedoglake.com/quinnmackeen/2012/09/01/homes-going-green-for-free-under-a-new-green-deal/
Okay…. seems to be righting itself. Sorry for the bother!
AitchD and wendy, your conversation about the Joan Didion piece lured me back to the link, and it is a beautiful piece that does indeed haunt one as wendy has said. I hope that you won’t mind if I take some exception to it while strongly agreeing with tone and message.
As I understand it, Joan is saying that morality is not simply following ones conscience conscientiously but is so determined by significant time and place that it is always a mystery – and that indeed goes with the Hasidim tale that tells us those in Hell the most difficult to save are the righteous – because they think they have been sent there to save everyone else. And I would claim it also goes with ‘judge not lest ye be judged’ and that log in the eye business. For Jesus it was ‘Do you see this woman?’ spoken to his host who was ready to throw said woman out into the street. And what Jesus says about her is, if there is any judgment to be had, “She has loved much.” Or, to those who would stone another, “Let him who is without sin throw the first stone…”
So, I’m puzzled by what Joan has to say about Jesus ‘following his conscience’ when what we ultimately see is his passion, which means ‘not my will but thy will’, an emptying of self which I think Joan’s piece written in the desert emptiness of human will pared down to the essential perfectly embodies. Not the way some folks look at Christianity perhaps, and Joan is addressing those, but it is what the texts are saying.
That beautiful piece, especially where it begins, takes me right back to the play ‘Antigone’ of Sophocles. Antigone wants to bury her brother, even though he was outside the city attacking it, while the king Creon considers her action traitorous, and has her entombed alive. ‘Holder closes final investigation’ has something of that primal insult, like the closing of a tomb within which a young girl, voiceless, still cries out for that one thing, to bury her brother’s body so the dogs will not defile it.
Washing my hair was what fixed it, dear. No bother at all; I hope many here read it and laugh with joy.
My sense of what AitchD may have meant, since it will be true for me, most assuredly…is that reading Didion’s piece over may bring new thoughts and understandings with each reading. He may have meant something else entirely, and I’m projecting.
For now, I’d say that you read the words; I read the images, with a few phrases over-lain, and took them to be a cautionary tale not only to myself, but those who would commit, in effect, dark deeds while claiming they would lead to some greater moral victory.
I once again am jammed for time, and when I read again this afternoon, your words will hover so that I might see why you took away what you did, and object to. I (metaphorically) held up my hands against some of what she wrote, but liked that it would spur me more…introspection, broader context, and understanding of her sense of the term. Not bad for such a short piece, eh wot?
Again, I’m thankful for what you bring, dearest juliania; AitchD as well. You both continue to educate me in literary spheres in which I’m so lacking.
Holder as Creon: brrrrrr and (((shivers))). Yikes.
Got it WD
The images from the essay that AitchD linked stayed with me last night and then followed me into my dreams … very powerful piece … especially the parts that I disagreed with … go figure .. only I would find the gems in the disagreements.
What an education I do get within the comments to your posts. Thank you for the excellent posts, and thank you AitchD for that link as well as all who have shared their understandings within the comments above.
“My sense of what AitchD may have meant, since it will be true for me, most assuredly…is that reading Didion’s piece over may bring new thoughts and understandings with each reading. He may have meant something else entirely, and I’m projecting.”
I would wholeheartedly agree with that, and thanks to you both for the diary and for the links therein.
Not at all, boots. That’s part of the bell effected, I think. The sound comes to us through our perceptions and awareness, both of ourselves and the world as we know it, and either chimes with accord, or causes us to hone our beliefs or question them from other angles. At least, that’s what a fourth reading did just now, but I took more time, and heard other voices chiming in here and there. ;o)
When I first read it, I found myself wondering who she imagined as her audience, and whether the thrust of her message was directed toward people or groups in her mind. Today I wondered what she’d see today in those words from so long ago, immersed in the culture of the 60s, and in CA to boot. ;o)
LOL! I find I need to read it once again to respond to what you said upthread; I sorta blew right by what she’d meant about Christ and conscience, and I still don’t take her meaning.
I’ll be back (she warned, lol).