(Yes, it’s long, but…it needs to be, and we need to know this stuff. Once again, there will be prizes for those who finish.) ;o)
Clearly the recent increase in food prices, and those expected in the near future, are due to a number of root causes and components. Many domestic and global reports have warned that by 2013 and 2014 high prices will reach critical levels in many developing nations. In the mainstream media, the reasons given are usually confined to: global areas of drought and flooding; corn being widely used as putatively ‘green’ biofuels; and depleted or non-existent national food reserves.
Less known as a cause is commodity manipulation by big banking and other forms of food financialization: hedge funds and index funds.
Some of the information in the videos and printed material in the links below contradict each other, but that may be down to America/UK variances.
In this TRNN program, Paul Jay interviews Tim Wise, the policy director for Tufts University’s Global Development and Environmental Institute on August 13. The subject is the advancing food bubble, climate change, and commodities manipulation:
For a deeper look into the manipulation subject, Jay interviews Michael Greenberger, University of Maryland School of Law and former US division * at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) and some connections with DHS. The subject is: Speculation and Criminal Manipulation of Food and Commodities Prices :
Greenberger’s doo-rah about ‘Obama ordered his DoJ to investigate, etc.’ (but, it didn’t happen) fails, of course, since if Holder failed to execute his ‘true wishes’, he could fire his butt. Instead, he proves once again which/whose side he’s on. (Enter my contest by taking a stab at the answer!)
Greenberger’s contention that ‘all ya need to do is have the FBI *open* investigations, and the manipulators would scatter like the cockroaches they are, prices would drop…”, falls far short of ‘Prosecute, and if found guilty: Jail ‘Em’, though. Cockroaches always return whn ya turn off the lights. greenberger’s political calculations at the end…readers may need to explain to me.
This next video is a 2011 animated explanation of how markets can be manipulated by commodity manipulators; sponsors of the video are named at the end. (You’ll notice that it was made at the time when some believed that the unfinished portions of Dodd-Frank might actually regulate the commodities and derivatives markets, or that regulators might give a good goddam about any fraud or law-breaking):
This is a piece from Feb. 2011 at Al Jazeera concerning a former UK hedge funder turned whistleblower explaining the extent to which food market manipulators really don’t care about world hunger, starvation, or food affordability. Warehousing vast quantities of commodities, *and* goofing markets. It’s brief, but probative; it’s easy to transpose the UK to US hedge fund practices.
So. What finally prompted me to pursue all this right now was the recent news from the UK that Barclay’s Bank made approximately £500 million on food ‘speculation’ during 2010 and 2011 according to the World Development Movement, which follows global poverty issues doggedly, and reported on Barclays Capital Commodities Division as to questionable practices in 2011. It’s a good website to bookmark for future reference; this page has a number of good videos on food speculation, plus various pages on tangential issues, and a primer for understanding commodity trading terminology.
Barclays claims that their food trades weren’t proprietary; they were just helpin’ out their clients.
So, Barclays, of LIBOR fame, was shown as conspiring with traders to manipulate the LIBOR rate in order to increase profits. We all learned a bit about why those rates were important to both the financial markets, pension funds, governments that bought interest swaps, and ultimately…even individual people (boatloads of civil suits against Barclays are in the works). It seems that oil is similarly ‘benchmarked’.
This page from WMD explains that, like LIBOR, the mechanisms through which conspiring traders are almost invited to the commodity manipulation table, in this case oil:
“Concerns around the reliability of oil prices–reinvigorated by the huge spike in gas prices earlier this year–continue to grow after a recent G20 report “found the market is wide open to ‘manipulation and distortion.’” Oil retailers use “benchmarks” to determine the price for future supplies. The benchmark rate is calculated by data companies (Platts & Argus) based on submissions from banks, hedge funds, energy companies, and others who trade oil daily. Similar to Libor, the integrity of this process depends on the honesty of firms to submit accurate data–firms that have an interest in manipulating prices.
The report, published last month by the International Organisation of Securities Commissions (IOSCO), noted that whole market is voluntary–that is, banks can choose which trades to make public–meaning “traders have opportunities to influence oil prices for their own profit.”
IOSCO’s website has this page with links on the right to their responses to the G-20s’ ‘concerns’. (okay.)
This is a link to Olivier de Schutter, the UN Special Rapporteur on The Right to Food from two bloody years ago: ‘Food Commodities Speculation and Food Price Crises - Regulation to reduce the risks of price volatility. Sigh and Grrr.
CNN mentioned food price increases recently, but…blames it on drought, but does manage to quote the IMF on the subject:
“However the World Bank has called on all countries to strengthen their policies and systems to protect the most vulnerable members of their population — such as safety nets to ensure poor families can afford basic staples, sustained investments in agriculture, the introduction of drought-resistant crop varieties, and keeping international trade open to the export and import of food.
“We cannot allow these historic price hikes to turn into a lifetime of perils, as families take their children out of school and eat less nutritious food to compensate for the high prices,” said Kim.”
Kim mentions ‘food market transparency’ as an afterthought; pretty bold stuff, there, my friend. But beware the ‘drought resistant corn’ idea; it may prove to be more dangerous than we know..
But Hello Mistah President:
There is plenty of food, even plenty to export? Excuse me? In your White House dining room, yes, and in Michelle’s garden; but not where most of US live, or the other ‘food insecure’ or starving people around the planet. What would the future look like had you made some of the suggested fixes before now, when it’s arguably TOO LATE? Yeah; that long hot summer CNN mentions might reach to a hell of a lot of ‘summers’.
The thing is, even if you don’t give a rat’s ass for the humans who are essentially supposed to be in your care, we all know that you know what sorts of social unrest, even riots, are caused when food and energy costs for a family are over 40% of their income. Yes, Mr. President: it’s known as a tipping point for revolution. We’re watching the world fray at the seams right now, due to needless and dangerous neoliberal austerity programs as the Big Banks and transnationals rake in the money to beat the band. You must be as clueless as the other MOTUs: you forget that one day soon, there won’t be any place for you to hide, either, as the planet chokes and wheezes, and clean water becomes impossible to find.
I hope we can save the world from you and your ilk before it’s too late.
(Call the White House today. All the President’s Men say they want to hear from you.) /s
(to be posted soon at kgblogz.com)



96 Comments

Thanks Wendy,
Highly informational as usual. I read it and listened (no prize necessary), I am hoping for some other informed perspectives to appear, also. Seen small farm holders listing for sale, standing corn at $1200-$1600 an acre in places like craig’s list. This is up from what I understood about three years ago (county agricultural agent) of $700 an acre and small farmer profits of about $75 an acre.
(edit) and three years ago, the profit was due to government crop subsidies, otherwise, farmers would have been at a loss of $75/acre for corn.
On Craigslist? Had no idea crops might be sold that way. That’s a major increase, but…not propped up by manipulations. Hope they make some money off their crops, especially if they’re family farms.
Great plains state, nonquixote?
Such an important topic!
I need to go back and follow the links, but before I do, I have two thoughts to share. First, the Arab Spring was influenced by high food prices and added motivation for revolution. Second, speculation is just about the most egregious example of an immoral strategy for the upward redistribution of wealth, and when speculation is used on food it becomes pure evil.
There was a great sign in the early days of occupy: Speculation Causes Starvation. It’s one of the ideas that got me interested in in what was happening at Wall Street last September.
Thanks for the diary.
An unasked for prize; probably my favorite family farm eulogy.
Yes on all three observations, yellowsnapdragon.
My first ‘Tipping Points’ post was around that time, I think. (Couched my verbiage a bit for the first one) ;o)
Thanks for reading, and the comment, my friend.
And yer prize; get out yer hankie, dear.
How to begin to comment on the gluttonous manipulators and purveyors of hunger and starvation?
A clear-headed reading of the US Constitution, beginning with the sacrosanct and much vaulted Preamble? Join the Union ye landowners, and be guaranteed the enforcement of contracts (“establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defence …”). That is to say, power and control will be centralized and never belong to the masses.
The rule of law pertains to enforcement of contracts. The “rule of law”, as some sort of ideal, invariably resides in rhetorical flourishes.
Apart from biofuels, the bulk of US corn and soy crops aren’t harvested to feed humans directly, but to feed livestock for the most part. Corn is also harvested as a food and beverage additive. The primary issue is economical for livestock farmers; it’s not a nutritional issue.
This kind of commodities speculation and excess may be the last straw, so I don’t think there will be violent and dangerous social unrest or food riots in the US.
Pausing …
Aloha, wendy…! I was experiencing some serious sticker shock as I’m whipping up all the kau-kau for the munchkin’s 1st baby luau set for noon tomorrow…! ;-)
Rec’d, Wendy. I need to read more and listen when I have not had a few glasses of wine. Imma drink some more and then call the White House and ask to speak with Mistah M.E.E. (More Effective Evil) about this right away.
Aloha, Tuttle; how wonderful. Kiss him for me. This is for all of you. First luau, my stars.
David Plouffe assured me via email that he awaits yer call, sweetie. (Me ‘n David are like this (twines fingers…)
When you watch and listen to the remark(s) from the Nestle mouthpiece, will you remember the Nestle boycott? For me it’s permanent and forever. I have to be vigilant, they don’t have a stake in the Calvados I’m sipping.
CT @ 8: Trader Joe’s (in Charlotte) hasn’t increased prices in years, while other food stores have, like you say.
I did google, and it seems you’re right; about half the corn grown here is fed to cattle. Here; everything’s grass-fed.
Plenty of other foods to be toyed with: oils, seeds, cereals, etc. Dunno what it will look like here, but around the globe already many developing nations are in sincere straits. Too sleepy for more, dear.
Tomorrow, tomorrow…to buy a fat…rutabaga. ;o)
I’m knackered.
Sweet dreams to all; imagine a better world for all of us while ya sleep. Night.
Sweet but not too-sweet dreams, wendydavis.
When I was growing up, you could buy only two sizes of Coca Cola in a bottle: 6 oz. or 6 1/2 oz., which included sugar (a lot) instead of corn syrup. Oh, if you were blogging then, there was plenty for outrage about the modern slaves destroying their backs and legs cutting the cane.
And you paid a recycling charge for the glass bottle, got back a penny when you returned the bottle. A nickel for the empty quart bottles of Canada Dry, but you paid an extra nickel. Also, families didn’t eat meat every day, and when they ate meat, they didn’t eat it three times a day.
Who modified our behaviors? Why couldn’t we resist?
It’s not like I’m an Ancient Mariner, talking about the dark ages. I was savvy enough to show my older sister how to adjust the tracking on her VCR.
I liked ‘whole’ pre-edit, it was, um, poetic. ;o)
While I’ve known about commodity manipulation for years, mainly because of internet posters like you who take the time and effort to do some digging and then describe what these bastards do in terms that I can understand, I’ll recommend a post like this every time I see one because this issue is hugely under-reported.
What it all comes down to is a few sociopathic gamblers making our basic food and fuel needs horribly overpriced so they can line their own pockets.
Capitalism strikes again.
I remember food.
Sort of.
Forgot to say: Wine improves the flavor of this post.
So nice to see you, Isaiah.
(I always have a few extra bucks to spare; let me know here if I can help.)
wendydavis trips her poetic angels. ;o)
– International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook, 2011
Winners and Losers in the New Commodity Price Regime:
You see, neo-liberalism could only do so much good.
Is it fucking crazy or what that ‘is this legal or not?’ questions should *need* to be asked???
One FDL denizen has come onto many of my posts to raise the alarm about commodity manipulation, so I’ve been collecting bits toward a post. Hope He (or she) shows up; curse it, I forget screen names so easily. (Though yours is a bit more memorable.) ;o)
Global food crisis “can topple regimes”:
Ben Bin Bernanke stayin’ those compradors alive!
Get Ahead! Prosper!
So many different models to gauge the prices, aren’t there?
Bugger; I’d thought that was the site that was advising how ‘the hungry’ should ‘modify their behaviors’.
Whooosh.
Okay, dear. Explain that to me? (Thanks for the clip; I just can’t squint hard enough to read the pdf.)
Global food crisis “can topple regimes”:
Can you say “financial warfare”?
The expansion of the green revolution (industrial agriculture) & agricultural slavery can only go so far.
Is it crazy that “Is this legal or not” questions need to be asked? The fact that they do just proves the point that sociopaths are running our economy. You know, people who feel they can do anything they want and don’t give a good goddamn about what effects their actions have on other people.
Capitalism rewards sociopaths. Sociopaths are crazy dangerous and control the economy. Sociopaths make sure politicians they can control hold the reins of political power.
You’re not crazy, Wendy. But THEY definitely ARE. Of course, they will turn around and blame us when we complain. Mentally ill people do that, you know.
Compradors mostly demand their predation be legal. The state obliges.
I’d say ‘financial terrorism’, but I am prone to hyperbole some days.
Thanks, dear, for digging for more. Mind-numbing that after ‘the most significant banking regulations since the Great Depression’…the casinos have actually increased their monetization of the economy, and have a ball betting on it.
Yes; we spoke about the myth of green capitalism and ‘sustainability’ here not too long ago. The Indigenous know well what neoliberal capitalism has wrought.
(I am concerned about what’s afoot in Bolivia now, though. Seems like Evo may have turned toward it; arrgh.) More on that later; if ya see anything, let me know. You seem to poke around a lot. ;o)
Thanks wendydavis. One billion people don’t have enough to eat.
I think the person you are thinking of uses the name Jaango.
Another very good source of information on this subject is the earth policy institute.
http://www.earth-policy.org
Heh. When I was poking around a while ago for more on ‘regulatory arbitrage’, it may have been one of their derivatives inventors who said, “If we can find ways around the legal, we’re crazy if we *don’t* take advantage of it, and so are you!”
OTOH, it’s always good when former foxes become game-keeper whistle-blowers, or even better than that, and act to atone for past wrongs.
I have some theories on how consciences develop (or don’t), but it seems that residing in particular bubbles, like finance, war, or electoral politics, just to name a few…can create some cognitive dissonance for a time that is too often remedied by altering one’s self-perception by a ‘co-worker Mary assures me that I’m still a good person, therefore, I must be’ rationalizations.
Shallow, but effective. Crisis over. An environmentally learned sociopathy, mebbe, buttressed by the replacement of self-worth and humane satisfaction with material wealth, and its concomitant power. That’s the layer I see most Congress-critters inhabiting: the place between the true oligarchs and the rabble.
Someone on either your thread or Cmaukonen’s mentioned (approximately) that even Marxist economics can, and has, been used against the 99%. Enforcing limits to profit, greed and wealth will always be hard until there is a true revolution of consciousness. Gonna take a major game-changer; I know we disagree on when that might be. ;o)
Welcome, mafr, and thanks for the Brown reminder. I’ve watched his videos, and forgotten his site/institute as a source.
Not jaango; I know him pretty well. I was thinking inla, but I checked his dashboard, and it wasn’t he/she.
OT, but I’ve been trying to ameliorate some of the emotional garbage I’m still carrying from the fire, and one thing was reading those live-blogs I did. You were awesome, and sooo supportive. I’d like to thank you, in case I didn’t do so adequately at the time, dear.
One billion. It doesn’t have to be that way.
Many, many thanks, wendy! What a great way to spend my Saturday. This is going to be very educational – I’ve only come through your first* video and haven’t read comments, so forgive me for being only partly primed. I think you point out that prosecution is far and beyond needed, rather than just shaking a stick, and evidently Obama’s “asking” his own Justice Department and saying ‘please, please,’ has had the desired effect as well – that is, they completely ignore him.
The part that rankled for me was when [*woops, I see I missed the first video!] Greenberger rattled off ‘…lack of attention of the public…’ to food cost manipulation. We sure see the price rises, I can tell you, and the adjustments will be causing us to pay attention as energy prices come more into the mix with the cold weather.
I have two suggestions first up. One: if at all possible, use public transportation, and especially if you are a senior and can get a low rate, that’s imperative. Not only are you keeping the roads safer (I know, I know; you’re the best driver since Evilkanevil) but those buses (if you have them; if not, start agitating!) are out there anyway, and the drivers will appreciate your keeping them in their jobs.
Two: we need to start a special university for all those young Occupy folk that I was just reading on Phoenix woman’s thread have nothing to do – for all of them to become the kind of legal experts we need. They did it for the Christian right and I have no hope for the Ivy League at this point – we need our own! Not a fly-by-night online outfit, something with the ability to generate attack dogs.
Back to my studies. Oh, and definitely recommend!
Maybe Jay didn’t do a pre-interview with Greenberger? ;o)
A clear case of ‘half-regulatory capture’ mebbe? (‘Just keeping my resume in tact, folks.’)
Thanks for the heads-up to visit PW’s thread. ;o)
I published this over yonder, but I didn’t ‘feature’ it since I was too burned out to edit it; that html kicks my ass soooo often. ;o) (Not sure I even edited it well this mornin’; mebbe AitchD’ll tell me if I use ‘whole’ a lot…as in: sure do wish I had a whole brain.)
And I of course had meant to say, ‘comrade dear.’ ;o)
AitchD, I also boycott corn and soy additives in food, and they are multiple (key Michael Pollan). Used to think that was simply because shelf life and nondigestibility were attractive components – but also, so they’ll be affected all by manipulation? Anyway, I even eschew my fave Ben’nJerry’s Cherry Garcia because one ingred. is corn syrup. How that sweetstuff is made was a real turnoff on one of those ‘you are corn’ videos from PBS. (I notice it doesn’t get replayed on pledge month.)
wendy, I went back to your first video, and what impresses me from that is the fact that with Big Agro pushing back against independent farmers, we no longer have our silos full – the Tufts guy put it “the pantry is bare.” And the point was made that this is of huge benefit to the agro guys since that kind of fat cow/thin cow savings plan prevents the kind of manipulation of prices that the speculators love. If that has been noted at all these last years (think he said 20) I sure didn’t see it.
Thank you again.
We use soy, but AitchD mentioned tempeh, which our stores didn’t usde to carry; Mr.wd is looking for it today. Turns out…it’s quite a bit healthier (yes, I did some homework, my friend).
Public transportation here is by Sissy Hankshaw, period.
I had thought Wise was speaking of the USDA’s strategic reserves, but you may have heard him better. Anyhoo, the pantry does seem to be empty *if column #2 is the reserves;(some say it was all given for humanitarian help in 2011…I think, and not replenished. (But this out of my usual bailiwick, for certain.)
Hope others here may know more about it.
Oh, and big agro GMO lies are all over the USDA site; how depressing and short-term. Round-up ready and Bt seeds are failing mammothly, even if ya *did* want to turn yer gut into a pesticide factory (well, many of us accidentally *have*, but ‘Food Safety’ there is a misnomer of gigantic proportions.
Unfortunately socially encouraged sociopathy is what we have here. I think this is a root symptom of fascism (perhaps accounted for by Eco in “Contempt for the Weak” and “Selective Populism”), i.e. a power system that encourages predation on the people (in order to cover it’s own predation). Since a conscience is socially developed, what we have here is a socially perverted conscience or anti-conscience.
The situation w/ regard to revolution of consciousness is grim. With the growth of capitalism and industrialism, the West tapped into powerful resources and technologies but fed their population the liberal lie, that entrepreneurialism was “progress”. As the impossibility of following that dream becomes evident, the ruthlessness masked by the dream becomes accepted.
That’s the comprador’s religion, even if he doesn’t get into the theology.
I think the comrade you’re thinking of is “lakota”.
Wendy, not the great plains, but I posted this at PUAC this morning and if you look closely you can find me in the top half of the image. Discussion included bird-watching, fall migration routes.
I have found here that the some very small property owners trying to cash in on high corn prices, are not always even full-time farmers but are doing what they can to supplement incomes lost from teacher pay/benefit cuts, lay-offs in construction, mandated shorter work weeks, higher food prices at the local grocery, a number of just plain economic survival interests. The relationship to larger scale food/energy speculators and price manipulators is simply not something that many people see or if they do see it, believe it is entirely beyond their control and remain silent and non-activist except to get a small piece of the $$ action. I don’t blame them.
Myself, I immediately realized that a half-gallon of something at the store is only 59 oz. and that a quart of something like yogurt has had only 24 oz for a long time now. Thank goodness I am lucky enough to have things like a big flat baking dish of fresh roasted garden beets to enjoy for part of my one full meal today.
Re-reading and re-listening, I never comprehend all the info adequately first time through. I am visiting the county branch of a state-wide garden club event, this afternoon with some self printed leaflets to suggest formal organization of home gardeners in donating to local food pantries through the group. A few people do this already without seeking acknowledgement. Obviously it won’t make a dent in food pricing schemes.
Not a modest number. What are some of the proposals to reach zero or less than zero?
“According to [the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)] research, there are nearly 19 billion chickens, 1.5 billion cows and 1 billion each of sheep and pigs around the globe.”
Those creatures have enough to eat and have universal health care.
Plus they fart a lot, so we get a hazy shade of winter.
Elizabeth Kolbert explains why this is a dead sea maxim: Feed a man and you feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
Well, I *tried to look closely and find you*, but…I’m not sure I actually did. But the water was soooo welcome.
What a wonderful idea re: the food pantries, nonquixote. It’s exactly how we’ll get through this together. Giving also means receiving…later, imo. Bless your heart, seriously.
It is incredible that the same old packages…contain a quarter less so often now. I read the term for that a while ago, but I’ve forgotten it. (Slicker than: product deception.) ;o)
Are the locals selling corn on the cob, or field corn for silage? That would require machines to dry, condition, blow it into containers, etc., it. Hard to picture.
Well, if most of the Florida fisherman in the swamps have been pot-running for three decades, it’s easy to see some changes now.
And cooperation could have been so key to preventing so much of this.
“Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph”.
It may just have been lakota, Ludwig; hope he stops by.
I haven’t read either of the books you mentioned, and won’t be able to, but thanks for the primary applicable thoughts. I do get how far astray we’ve come now with the help of those who consider us worth anything only as long as we’re producing something, though they produce nothing, but financialize *everything*.
It’s arguably crazy of me, but I do think that events when for more of us, all will seem lost, and will cause some Gestalt realizations to whirrrr together in new patterns, new values of what’s really important in our human lives. When that occurs, we’ll be able to *see* each other more clearly as part of our immediate community, and the ideas of love (yes, hippie thinking, I know) and cooperation may just catch fire.
Aaaaand. I still have hope (because I must) that a largely non-violent social revolution will have the effect of declaring this government, in its abdication of us, of ethical and Constitutional principles…null and void.
And yes…you’d like to have some of what I’m smokin’. (The MM doc is comin’ to our house after lunch; wish me luck.) ;o)
The shorted sizing began in the 1970s as a reaction to Brazil’s coffee crop failures and the worldwide rise in coffee prices. First tricky container I saw was the Folger’s 12 oz. can like a pound-size can. In the 1980s a beer touted its “full half-quart” bottles, perhaps more an example of a schmuck’s ad lingo than a lie.
Illustrative example: During the gasoline price spike of 2008, for (I have my crackpot theory) some reason, the refineries that fed the pipelines to Atlanta, Charlotte, and Nashville (3 largest Southern cities) cut off supplies to those locations and their nearby areas. The pumps went dry, or when some fuel was delivered, it immediately ran out. Long lines like in 1979.
Folks took care of things (here in Charlotte). They started ‘blog’ pages, used their smart phones, reported in real time where there was fuel, what stations ran out of fuel, etc. They used Google maps with location marker pins. Comments reported in real time where fuel had just been delivered.
Within a few days, the NC governor, after getting no response from the refineries or the feds, made some phone calls to Virginia and other nearby states where gasoline was plentiful. He contracted with refineries and drivers, and gasoline came to those Southern areas right away and eliminated the shortage.
The smartphone/blog network continued, as the new supply was still less than full capacity. Gas stations rationed ($50 and the pump shut off).
I never read or heard of a single incident of violence.
Yes, what you’re smoking will help you make it through the night. (“When asked what he believed in, [Sinatra] replied, ‘Booze, broads, or a bible…whatever helps me make it through the night.’“)
I don’t think crisis is the best time for public philosophy (how should we live?). Should have been done long ago.
Keep your candle lit, though.
Some rent a small parcel to a neighbor, there is a lot of 1960′s to 1980′s era usable (and already paid for) farm machinery around, under-utilized until there is an opportunity (corn) influenced by current market prices. The equipment is from former family sized dairy operations or very small beef operations and there are still a lot of those small farm experienced individuals to learn from.
I am guessing that the half dozen larger local dairy operations buy it and use it for silage right here. Milk gets shipped. A lot of local acreage is also leased to one or two very large vegetable growers for commercial canning peas recently (a pretty big business in this state), some soybeans and oats, barley and wheat to a lesser extent. Plantings do follow with some standard rotational cropping patterns that minimize cost inputs for fertilizer and chemicals if watched from year to year. These old Scandinavians and western Europeans don’t spend a nickle more than is needed, and then still do pray for rain.
I’m meeting tomorrow with a person who has about eighteen acres in corn this year. He has farm machinery borrowed from an uncle of his. I am buying breakfast on his way to his normal job to try to get some info on hard costs, sales and potential profits. He apparently contracted for a set price prior to planting last spring.
I’m off for awhile. We were/are just north of the drought affected area this season.
I need to be more specific, Ludwig. I’ve been resistant to the idea of MM, though I smoked more than plenty in my earlier life. (not to mention lysergic acid and a few psilocybin mushrooms). Now, I am only yielding to the expense because I am so fucking tired of hurting. And not sleeping well. Though the test drive I took some borrowed stuff for, caused me to think that ‘caring less’ about the pain, immobility’, may be one of its advantages.
More on the second bit later, comrade dear. ;o)
That’s very kind of you, Wendy, thank you, but I’m doing OK.
Great diary. My only constructive criticism is that it wasn’t long enough. :)
Thanks Wendy!
I think the reason companies like Nestle’ dislike ethanol is because higher corn prices mean less profits for the companies further down in the production chain –such as Nestle — whereas more of the food dollar profit ends up in farmers’ pockets. But that doesn’t mean ethanol drives up food prices. A lot of people don’t know it, but a large chunk of the corn that is used to make ethanol ends up as a byproduct called Dried distillers’ grain, which can and is used as animal feed. (A lot of the corn produced is used as animal feed.) What high corn prices do is drive up the cost of animal feed, which does make livestock farmers’ costs higher, although I’m not sure this necessarily means they can pass that cost on to consumers. But people are predicting there will be higher meat costs next year: this is because of feed costs. So, first chicken prices will rise, then pork, then beef.
I think Prof. Wise may not understand the flexibility of the ethanol program: does he understand that a lot of ethanol plants already slowed down their production and some took a break from production altogether, because of the high corn prices due to drought?
Also, I think there is more flexibility in the entire system than what he gives it credit for. Yes, there was a drought, but there wasn’t a drought everywhere, only in some places. Secondly, he lumps soybeans in with corn, but it isn’t the same because soybeans are planted later than corn, and so soybeans are benefitting from recent rains. And neither crop has been harvested yet. Third, other places around the world plant a lot of corn and soybeans, too, and not all of those places suffered drought. Some places had a great year. An article in Reuters recently said that total grain production this season is projected to be greater than last year, which includes barley.
That’s wendydavis to you, darlin’ dear. ;o)
This one’s for you comrade Ludwig. The increase in commodity prices had “zip” to do with fundamental forces or “commodity market speculation”. It was all about “commodity market manipulation”. When a bushel of corn comes into The Chicago Board of Trade costing $3.00 and leaves out at $8.00, that’s “commodity market manipulation”.
Corn went from $3.00 a bushel in January of 08, to $8.00 a bushel in June of 08, and that was when farmers had so much corn they had no place to store it. One farmer had so much corn in the bin next to his house that it burst. The overflowing corn destroyed his house, and almost took his life.
During this same time, gasoline went from $1.50 a gallon, to $3.50 a gallon on the commodities market. That translates to over $4.00 a gallon at the pump. High Grade Copper, which had been no higher than $1.50 a pound, went to over $4.00 a pound at that same time.
Corn, gasoline, high grade copper, and a number of other commodities all bottomed in January of 09, that’s impossible. Need I get anyone the definition of the word “impossible”. In this case “impossible” as in a “natural sequence of events”
Go to this website for verification of all that you see here. http://wp.me/p2vRlu-4
Then, if ya finished it, you should receive the mentioned prize. My favorite B. Raitt.
You know where to find me should the need arise, and if I’m solvent, tra la la… Longer? Are ya crazee?
Good-o, lakota. Glad you made it.
Trissell, trasell, trussel, trome…time for this one…
To get some sleep. Zzzzzz.
See ya soon.
This is a convenient capitalist distinction. Commodity markets proffer the benefit of price regulation to producers and consumers. They require regulation themselves to prevent exploitation to the benefit of “speculators” and the exchange. The IMF quotes above show the anticipation of “fundamental forces” (if I understand your meaning) is justification for price rises and market speculation their amelioration. I agree that is a fraud.
Still, the commodity market is inadequate given scarcity and dangerous in the fraud of neo-liberal capitalism. Scarcity and speculation are “loopholes” to cover manipulation; they were always exploited and “manipulation” was always part of price regulation.
The market bosses regulatory capture has been sanctioned in light of foreseen scarcity and the legitimization of rent-seeking (succession of neoliberalism over empire industrialism). The commodity markets will not work without manipulation given that capitalism itself now degenerates to market “manipulation”.
You can’t “regulate” that.
This has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but are you familiar with Kafka?
Heir Ludwig, you’re stuck in the past. I’m flat out talking about “corruption”. Have you ever been to this website? http://wp.me/p2vRlu-4 Go there and we will have a “fundamental” basis for a discussion.
You sound like those MMT acolytes – always deferring to some exegesis. Anyway, I’ve seen your document. You evade my point entirely.
Capitalism is fraud.
Those are not my documents, those are charts that represent the prices everyone paid for gasoline, corn, high grade copper, and soybeans at that time.
The fact that none of those commodities were ever nearly this high in record keeping history has absolutely nothing to do with “capitalism”, fraud yes; but never in the history of the world have so many been defrauded out of so much.
No one seems to realize the magnitude of the effects of so much money made to disappear from our pockets, and placed into a few very wealthy market manipulators pockets.
http://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski.html
Nonquixote, reading your posting I had to jump in with this link that I thought you might find interesting. This young man has a PHd in fusion energy, but after graduating found he was “useless”. So he bought a farm in Missouri. When his tractor broke more often than he could afford to repair, he started a company that prototypes the 50 necessary machines to sustain civilization, and that can be built at home! They then release the blue prints on CD’s.
Even if this information seems to be of little value in relationship to what you hope to do, I urge you to watch it (on TED); the enthusiasm, joy, honesty and generosity of this young man is so heartening. I actually pull this video up occasionally just to give myself hope for our future.
TED, may be a site you and many others at FDL have familiarity. Whenever I am here I am always overwhelmed by the amount of knowledge that is shared. It humbles me, and makes me wish I had more time to read and research every topic that caught my eye.
Let me know what you think of young Marcin. Enjoy the rest of this fall weekend, wherever you are planted.
I see we grew up in a very similar (cartoon) time frame.
ludwig, lakota, I appreciate teh input. I’m just trying to keep on learning. A sincere thanks to you both.
I met several people that were and are of great importance to the local agricultural economy here, today, along with the faces that belong to some names that I have heard. I need to make a point to get out more.
wendydavis just for you and anyone else who might be here.
Sorry, yes, meant to say that was the case as privately held ones, well, we know what they will do. Another interesting point, which I think I first saw raised by kgb, was that food scarcity had much to do with the Arab spring – I hadn’t realized that, though the Cairo garbage collectors on the PBS piece I viewed a while back were being threatened by a commercial outfit coming in a la Big Agro, so privatization was already then rearing its lovely head.
On the contrary, it has very much to do with capitalism, a degenerative financial capitalism that generated a cash slush looking for the next bubble. Moreover, that capitalism acclimateded a comprador population to commodity extortion.
So, you continue to promote the exceptionalism of this theft and I will continue to show it’s heritage.
What do you think of the World Wars that were promoted by capitalists? Does the theft of lives rank as a greater fraud, comrade?
Thank you.
Sublime: ‘We follow the sun‘.
And for you and everyone (and I’m so sorry to be Running Out of Words).
(It’s a big fat bee on a double delph (with white ‘bees’ that look like scott terriers…) ;o)
As with the Indigenous, the Egyptians knew exactly how neoliberalism via the West, the IMF, and World Bank had stolen the fruits of their labor.
One of the turning points in the revolution (caveat: as *I remember it*) that Egyptians were looking for, was when and if the farmers (and dock/port workers?) headed to Tahriri Square. Then it was official, I think.
(Wael Ghonim’s earlier call-outs arguably electrified the citizens to the regime’s callous use of torture against poitical enemies, too.) ;o)
I dunno that I knew (and if I did, have forgotten) that about the garbage collectors; thanks.
These commodity charts illustrate the most perfect robbery ever concocted. The people who are being robbed, don’t even know they’re being robbed.
Throughout the history of this country, the CFTC protected the people from this type of exploitation. Now that corrupt politicians have taken over the CFTC, the people don’t even recognize the fact that they are being robbed.
Even when there is a website which illustrates how the people are being robbed, the people don’t know what they’re looking at.
Those are “commodity charts” on that website. they are a record of the prices you paid for those commodities. Although those are 25 year charts and most charts are only three months long, they are the same “commodity charts”, just different time lengths.
I didn’t draw those charts, they drew themselves when buyers and sellers came to a price conclusion at that specific time; at least that’s the way it was before “manipulator” and “manipulator” got in the game. Do you wander why you never paid much over a dollar for a gallon of gas, but you’re now paying $4.00 a gallon? Do you wander why you paid over $8.00 for a bushel of corn in 08, which was 4 years before the drought. Do you wander where all that money you’re being robbed of is going? Did you know that money is used to buy political favor to keep you from knowing that you are being robbed? While no one buys a bushel of corn, corn translates to meat in the form of chicken, pigs and cattle; those things cost more.
If the people who are being robbed, don’t even know they’re being robbed, then the people are beyond hope.
Uh huh.
The people are always being robbed, comrade. They usually accommodate.
Yes, but there’s still hope for the not-yet born.
If a fool and his money are soon parted;
and since commercial, advertising-funded teevee’s exclusive purpose has been to induce consumption;
then teevee’s function has been to make fools of its viewers.
Dunno for sure, cal222, but Wise seems t have some game in the field, so I’m guessing he knows whereof he speaks. You seem to be talking ‘market solution’; he and Jay were speaking of undoing strict mandates Law (big difference, imo.
Interesting on the the ‘distillers grain’. Toured the Jack Daniel distillery in Tennessee once. Sour mash. Mmmm. Sorry I missed this earlier; I have a bad habit of coming back to threads and zipping to the end.
Hate to copy your final sentence, lakota, so instead:
Of course there’s hope. OBomba’s trojan horse perfidy and uber-alliance with banks and multinationals gave us, via the Gen X and Y-ers OWS. I thank him for that.
The 1% run the country, and own the media, or 99.4% of it, no? Their jobs is expressly to lie. Lie us: into wars of choice and empire, purchasing the newest Gadget before the old one is dead; causing us to be constantly chagrined at our lack of beauty, clothing ownership, cool cars, and worst of all, provoke constant fear in us, allowing Americans to yield their civil liberties gladly for the illusion of safety and ‘security’ in the form of an increasingly militaristic Law and Order.
We’ve been conned for decades in myriad ways. When I think how we bought into the factory interchangeable parts for education, I could smack every one of us (or our forebears) stupid. When we were told at each level of technological ‘advance’ that it would free US up for more leisure time…and again it’s happening with factory robotics…we’re supposed to think that’s kewl (adding) ‘and true’.
A million ways….
But: the reason that they call this time the beginning of The Great Awakening, is precisely because so many people here, and around the world, have increasingly been feeling a sense that Something’s Not Right about our own national narrative, and questioning it.
One of the reasons I wrote this post was to highlight this further theft that few know about, and allow people to bring info and further illumination to it. Sometimes posts will be shared through social network stuff; this one…not so much. ;o)
But one good extra to posting diaries is the tags, or identifiers, that people googling or binging for info might pick this one out of the cache…and learn more.
Yes, there’s hope, even though it can look hopeless, or that too many are stuck in their comfortable bubbles in ignorance and apathy. We’re gonna prevail in the end…cuz we have to.
Jack Daniels, another short-portion product, casualty of the litigious cyclone that swept across the US after Watergate. Call it Waterdowngate. Jack (black label) used to be 90 proof, most good hard stuff was at least 86 proof. Hotdog lawyers argued successfully that bars and clubs were liable as accomplices in personal-injury suits and deaths caused by drunk drivers. All popular whiskey downsized to 80 proof. Bars and clubs still charged the same, plus they could serve more than before: if two shots made you drunk, now it would take three.
That was the last time I saw Richard…
Elegant, wendydavis, and thanks. It’s hard to put into words what’s been lost, how it happened, why it happened. I remember when the renascent lights went out or dimmed so much it looked utterly dark.
No doubt you’re familiar with what’s come to be called ‘the Powell memo’.
This site discusses it and links to it.
Ah, thanks for the Joni; ‘Blue’ is one of her best albums, imo.
Jack: we used to carry ‘yittle’ (Elijah word) bottles of it in our pockets while we Christmas caroled. Loads of us would get together to practice, mebbe potlucks after. Jack helped (ahem) numb yer vocal chord, and kinda warmed ya up. Still have a set of big brass jingle bells on a leather strap…’sleigh bells rinnnngggg….’
Oh, where were we? ;o) I do vaguely remember the proof decrease; dinnae know what it was about. The local Free Press editor (a friend, and I used to write for them) came by after her father died. She brought the most enormous sealed bottle imaginable full of Crown Royal, in its velvet bag (we prized them as kids for marble bags). Still can’t get the cap to budge on that mofo. It’ll have to keep aging, I guess… ;o)
We were collectively asleep, and even our best efforts failed to create a different world we at lest half-imagined in the ’60′s. The dirty hippies were right (no, I won’t link the video tonight). ;o)
But has all been snowballing faster and faster…but some brakes are being put on, thank goodness.
Did not know the Powell memo; thanks. Read it more full tomorrow, and (ptui). Another coven of deciders like the Cheney Energy Task Force, I guess, just more domestic, mebbe?
Played the Joni Blue again; my stars, that woman.
Night, everyone; thanks sooo much for a great thread once again. Y’all are wonderful.
Sweet dreams. It’s Roy, the Boss, K.D., Bonnie, Jackson…so many others.
Here’s some true taste of wendydavis:
I just think it’s interesting that you won’t say what you actually think here, where you get the eyeballs, but you do elsewhere on a low traffic site.
I also think that it’s interesting that you won’t actually say what you think to the person’s “face”, you know, here and actually address them, themselves, but are ok doing it elsewhere.
When you auditioned to be the first alternate dwarf for Disney’s Seven Dwarfs, did you call yourself Drunky or just your given name? Were you selected or rejected?
Hey, Kelly Canfield. It is tacky of me to giggle over some of this stuff, isn’t it? Funny, though, when Margaret recently did what you just did here,she didn’t even know the fdl denizens well enough to realize we were talking about folks at a whole ‘nother site where some of us used to blog.
Stay well, Kelly. Love having you troll my threads and spy on me at our little Home place. Class act ya are, dear.
I’m sure it would make your whole year if you could get me banned, or cause people to not read my posts. ;o)
Added: I just twigged to why you may have mentioned ‘low-traffic site’. Thing is, we don’t sell ads, so hits don’t matter much, except to gauge interest levels, attract others to engage in discussions, tra la la…
Nah; I’m a Tall Gurl, not even eligible for the part. ;o)
In a related issue, I came across this piece posted a year ago at Alternet by Rania Khaleck on how the World Bank and IMF neoliberal forces have increased, if not caused, famine in Africa, especially by forced ‘structural adjustment programs’.
She narrates the actual mechanics involved, and quotes Naomi Klein that hunger is used like war as a weapon of the MOTUs to force Shock Doctrine ‘deals’.
In other news this morning, Hungary’s Orban has rejected the conditions for granting them a loan.
Hmmm. Nope; they don’t want taxes on the banks. Austerity is the only answer. /s
Last night I looked up the garbage recyclers to see what the current status is – found an article for August 1. It seems there are still ‘foreign interest’ garbage contracts, not very effectively collecting and dumping in three huge trash sites, where the Zabaleen have always recycled, something like 60%. (They are a Copt community of 60,000 I think.)
The contracts come up for renegotiation in 2015 and the Zabaleen are hoping to win some. I hope Morsi gives them preferential treatment, I really do.
Dean Baker has a very interesting short diary here on the value of the dollar, seems a further aspect of manipulation we should be considering.
The link:
http://my.firedoglake.com/deanbaker/2012/09/09/the-value-of-the-dollar-is-not-out-of-the-control-of-politicians/
And do I take it the ‘foreign interest’ garbage folks don’t have a recycling center? Or is that just a side issue?
I hope he gives them some preferential treatment, too.
Thanks for the Baker link. I’ve been reading pro and con arguments on the next QE. Still tryin’ to understand this stuff to even have a half-way informed opinion. ;o)
;o)
I was gonna link to a certain Miles Davis song but then I worried you’d really think I was addressing you.
LOL! Okay; jazz: This is as close as I come to likin’ it (and bluesey jazz, mebbe some of Joni’s, but…)
(My fave is ‘he had it comin’, so beware of me givin’ ya a link to that one; I just *might be* addressin’ YOU, lol!)
The jazzier Joni went, the more I stopped listening. Don Juan’s Reckless Daughter (1977) was her last album I bought, so her next, Mingus, was the first I didn’t have. I next bought the retrospective Both Sides Now (2000), loved the way that album’s version of BSN concludes, the orchestra trailing (Mahler-like) ‘Isn’t it rich?…’.
(Wondering about linking ‘Send In The Clowns’…)
Yesterday I scanned an old Polaroid I titled Both SIdes Now. ;o)
And here I’d thought ya would have been reading up a storm at the links. /s
Remember Rita?
Yeah; Mr. wd bought Hejira, I tried to like it…
Did you know that Joni and her daughter who she’d given up for adoption as a teen…finally found one another again? Another beautiful love story. Daughter is, as I remember it, also an artist/musician.
I like ‘River’; another sublime one.
I read or read at all yer links, kiddo.
Loved Rita’s Higher and Higher, Jackie Wilson was an early heartthrob of mine.
Yeah, there was a PBS feature-length featurette bio of Joni including her reunion. A wonderful punk/post-postmodern short story in TNY a few years ago included a ref to who-could-only-be Joni and her daughter, a very cheeky and gossipy allusion.
Madeleine Peyroux and kd’s River is a delicious tributary. Love kd’s duet CD with Tony Bennett, gave it to my sister last year for her birthday. Tomorrow’s her birthday again, she’ll be getting an unforgettable card, hand-delivered. ;o)
No, they have three big trash dumps out in the desert.
Kiddo. Puts me in mind of the past… ;o)
Kd, hmmm. Hallelujah. Who owns the cover? Buckley, mebbe; but KD and a young pianist….was it Nora? Anyway….(olympics version was stellar, but has an ad)…
Thank you, j.
May I take this opportunity to tell you your comments today and yesterday (amghuru), at Home, here…cause me to say again that you are a totally awesome emissary for God. I do *not* say this lightly. You are one astounding woman…human being, in the best sense possible.
love,
wd