Soon after Ambassador Chris Stevens and several others were killed in an attack at the consulate in Benghazi, both UN Ambassador Susan Rice and WH press secretary Jay Carney told the American public that the impetus of the attackers was limited to Muslim outrage at the anti-Islam youtube that helped to spark protests in many ME nations (as in: copycat protests). They also maintained that the attacks were spontaneous, came without warning (as in no previous intelligence), and were perhaps camouflaged inside a large protest outside the consulate at 10:00 pm, which, it turns out, may not have occurred at all according to some sources (I’m agnostic on the point). Both stuck to their stories, Carney for twelve days, and Rice a week or better.
Several days after the attack on the consulate, a CNN correspondent found a journal on the floor that contained seven pages’ worth of Stevens’ writings; CNN notified the family, and apparently told them that they would honor the family’s wishes in not reporting the contents, and reported those facts on the 15th.
According to Huffington Post:
“On Wednesday on his show, “Anderson Cooper 360,” Cooper told Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) that “a source familiar with Ambassador Stevens’ thinking told us that in the months before his death he talked about being worried about the never-ending security threats that he was facing in Benghazi and specifically about the rise in Islamic extremism and growing al Qaeda presence.” The source, Cooper continued, “also mentioned [Stevens] being on an al Qaeda hit list.”
But what Cooper didn’t reveal at the time was that CNN’s sourcing was tied, at least partially, to Stevens’ thinking as written in his personal journal.”
Oh, we-lll.
The Cooper CNN video is here.
After the broadcast, according to Glenn Greenwald:
“In response to this reporting, State Department spokesman Philippe Reines issued a blistering, unusually aggressive attack on the news network. Denouncing CNN’s conduct as “disgusting”, Reines invoked Stevens’ family to insist that CNN had done something unconscionable.”
Quoting Reines, Greenwald then answers his question (my bolds throughout):
“Whose first instinct is to remove from a crime scene the diary of a man killed along with three other Americans serving our country, read it, transcribe it, email it around your newsroom for others to read, and only when their curiosity is fully satisfied thinks to call the family or notify the authorities?”
The answer to that question is: any journalist worthy of the name. CNN’s first obligation is to disclose to the public information that is newsworthy, not conceal it. Had they not reported this information, that would have been an inexcusable breach of their obligation – then the word “disgusting” would have been appropriate. What they reported had nothing to do with Stevens’ personal life and everything to do with his role as a government official; his family’s “permission” was therefore irrelevant.”
Well of course it’s irrelevant; the public needed to know a bit more of the truth, and congratulations to CNN for stepping up to the plate; it’s a rare thing for any mainstream media to Commit Journalism these days. CNN has actually been defending itself, which is bogus on the face of it, but even Howard Kurtz had this to say:
So what are we to make of the blistering reaction from the State Department? That depends, of course, on your perceptions. For Buzzfeed’s Michael Hastings, the reaction was all about besmirching Clinton’s legacy. After reporting his views, he was also blasted in emails by Philippe Reines. This was Reines’ response after Hastings asked him to give answers that weren’t bullshit:
“I now understand why the official investigation by the Department of the Defense as reported by The Army Times The Washington Post concluded beyond a doubt that you’re an unmitigated asshole. How’s that for a non-bullshit response? Now that we’ve gotten that out of our systems, have a good day. And by good day, I mean Fuck Off.”
Ah; such a diplomat, eh wot?
On the other hand, Hastings had had this to say (and more) about Hillary and Foggy Bottom:
“Perhaps the real question here,” CNN responded to the State Department criticism, “Is why is the State Department now attacking the messenger.”
That is the real question, and State Department’s bizarre criticism of CNN gives clues to the answer. Foggy Bottom is now in full-on damage control mode, with the primary goal of keeping Hillary Clinton’s legacy in Libya — and in Washington — intact.” [snip]
Hastings opines that the politics of this, and the situation in Libya in general, won’t matter much to OBomba’s electoral chances, but:
“But on policy, what happened in Benghazi raises serious concerns about the actual success of the Libya intervention. It’s not a slam dunk, as previously advertised by Clinton. (“We came, we saw, he died,” she said upon hearing news of Qaddaffi’s death.)
He also mentions Ryan Lizza’s Clinton puff piece on Libya, elevating her to rock star status, and creating the term ‘leading from behind’ about Obomba.
Glenn Greenwald is a bit more direct about it. After linking to a NYT piece about the consulate attack demonstrating that a larger contingent of CIA were in county, even allegedly surprising Libya’s ‘sovereign government’, he writes:
“Yet again, western military intervention spawns vast instability and leads to the proliferation of weapons into the hands of extremists deeply hostile to the US. As Jonathan Schwarz, referring to the US support of the pre-Al-Qaeda mujahdeen in Afghanistan, sardonically noted in the aftermath of the 11 September Benghazi attack: “with practice and better technology, we’ve really cut down the turnaround time between arming Islamists and them killing Americans on 9/11.”
We see this over and over and yet never learn the lesson. The New York Times editorial page today declared the Iraqi government “on the wrong side” by virtue of its alignment with Iran and Syria and suggested that US aid – only a fraction of what is necessary to rebuild that country after the US destroyed it – should be cut off if such insolence continues. US-enabled regime change, time and again, exacerbates the very problems it is ostensibly intended to resolve.
If the Iraqi government continues to side with Iran, how much longer will it be before calls for regime change in Iraq are renewed? And how much longer will it be before we hear that military intervention in Libya is (again) necessary, this time to control the anti-US extremists who are now armed and empowered by virtue of the first intervention? US military interventions are most adept at ensuring that future US military interventions will always be necessary.”
Susan Rice, of course, is in line for Secretary of State if it turns out that OBomba needs one in the future. I feel your pain.
As an aside, rather than meeting in any one-on-ones prior to his scheduled speech the following day at the UN General Assembly, OBomba chose to tape a visit to ‘The View’, during which time he apparently said that it was necessary to take a deeper look at what happened in Benghazi, yada yada. When asked what he’d like to do during his post-Presidency years, he waxed on about… helping children. It all sounded very…sweet.




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Interesting. But haven’t Obamabots been saying Al-Qaeda was responsible for the Benghazi debacle from the get-go? I saw that argument made right here on this site. Of course, even if Stevens was right about a growing Al-Qaeda presence in Libya, that doesn’t necessarily mean they are guilty of this particular crime.
There’s lots of different groups there–bitter Qaddafi supporters, all sorts of different religious fanatics, maybe even a commie or anarchist or two.
The fact is we just don’t know who done it.
It is surprising seeing anyone in the M$M actually standing up for journalism that doesn’t tow the fascist line, though.
I did not know any of this(no cable, no satellite, and I hate streaming video) so thanks and recc’d.
Being lucky, I didn’t know Hillary Rodham when she was a rabid Goldwater Republican. I can say ‘rabid’ since nearly every Goldwater Republican I knew in those 1960′s was rabid. Those who weren’t rabid were insane.
I’m betting when he leaves office, Mister President will liveblog a livestream of the melting of Greenland.
Well, Greenwald’s been writing for a long time about the stranglehold that government has on media, so I guess it’s only natural that the State Dept. is letting CNN have it with both barrels. They stepped out of line; they deviated from the agenda.
Why don’t we all call the State Dept. and leave constructively critical comments for Philippe Reines? I know that’s what I’m going to do tomorrow.
Conventional wisdom had it was Ansar al-Shariah or AQIM who dunnit (Salafists, if I understand correctly). Their offices were sacked on Friday, and now the interim head of the government is disbanding as many militias as he and army forces are able.
Both groups are sincerely Anti-American. There were plenty of detractors who feared that western support of the civil war would funnel arms directly to what some wondered might be Bad Guys. Claims are always that the militias are using Qaddafi’s arms; plenty were brought into Libya. As they say, everyone in the country now has an AK-47.
But yes, there have been enough militia groups; I’ve read 47 here and there. I dunno where it will all go, Barbarian, but I will say I was not a proponent of R2P in Libya. I’ll stop there.
Recc’d. Thanks wendydavis.
Philippe Reines threw quite a tantrum. He set a sparkling example for diplomats everywhere to emulate.
‘Rabid’ or ‘insane’, lol!
Are members of The Family either one, too? ;o)
Shoot; Prez endeavors after Presidency should have been a bloomin’ *contest*, eh wot? But…yurrs is a sad entry, AitchD.
From the little I hear about mainstream media, this did seem a surprising move by CNN. I would love to have been a fly on the wall during their considerations. The worst part of the whole mess started with them promising *not* to use anything from the journal, as though they were so comfortable with Captured News Stenography…it was reflexive on their part.
Call the Ambassador to the UN, too, will ya? She always reminds me of a kid who put her hair in a bun, donned a Donna Karan suit, and is now playing Grown Up. Only with real life consequences.
Welcome, Isaiah. Hillary Love must come at a cost. ;o)
We went into Libya for our own reasons all wrapped up in shiny “humanitarian” paper. We killed a lot of people, destroyed a bunch of infrastructure and left more chaos and violence in our wake than was there before we started.
We know that tons of people want to do us harm for reasons that are completely understandable considering what we do to them first.
We then craft a situation where a high level diplomat and others are set up as easy targets. Did we do this because we are arrogant nitwits or for other hidden and ulterior motives? I’d pretty much believe anything when it comes to the American government.
OK, so none of the above actually surprises anyone and what catches everybody off guard is that a news organization steps out of its self-defined role as government lapdog stenographer and actually reports the truth.
Afterward, everything gets back to routine as the government works overtime to castigate and besmirch someone for doing the right thing.
The only blip in all this was what CNN did. Everything else seems entirely normal to most people.
The above is a snapshot of what we are as country. Read it and weep.
You didn’t think she’d be by herself, drinking warm milk, at three o’clock in the morning while Obama is taking those phone calls, did you?
Will somebody explain to me why President Bush didn’t resign in 2006 after Keith Olbermann demanded his resignation?
Yeppers. State has to protect the King of The Mountain.
Qadaffi killed a lot of people, but still, he used to be Our Guy so very recently, as are the Ruling Elite in Bahrain (US Fifth Fleet).
It just makes me sad that it’s so easy for the new GNC (the old ‘TNC’) to blame ‘militias’ for all the torture and indefinite imprisonment of former Quadaffi loyalists, sub-Saharan Africans some claim were mercenaries, others that they were starving and went there for jobs)…
I’m sorry, dear CthreePO; I am so tired I fear I’m a bit incoherent.
Silly me. ;o)
Is it a riddle, dear?
Er…cuz he missed the broadcast while he was reading My Pet Goat again cuz in all the excitement he fergot how it ended?
Heck, I’ll call anybody! I have a big mouth and tons of spare time :p In all seriousness I reckon phone calls are futile gestures, but when I see something as outrageous as this it just gets under my skin and I’ve gotta get my voice out there somehow.
Keith who?
Pretty generic contact page, but I reckon you could leave messages directed to whomever you’d like. Ya might take a shot at Victoria Nuland while yer at it. ;o)
Nice plan, Jon73. If the calls
Ah…I see you have a post up by that name. ;o) Tomorrow; looks like a lot of homework there.
Sleep well everyone; I’m 4 bed. G’night.
Yeah, you are right, Qadaffi was a murdering despot, but he was a good murdering despot when it suited our purposes.
If we really, really, wanted to, couldn’t we have found a way to make things better for the Libyan people without killing a bunch of them?
Yeah, we all know that story about his reading to the unleftbehind kinder. We saw it on tape. How do we know that wasn’t prerecorded and left in the can until it was needed? (Oh, and don’t just say they used digital files instead of tape and there weren’t cans anymore, there were hard drives.) Isn’t it most plausible that the real President Bush, a seasoned and well-trained United States Air Force National Guard jet fighter pilot, scrambled a specialty jet on that day to try to intercept United Airlines Flight 93?
Thanks, wendydavis! Never hurts to remind ‘em that–theoretically, at least–they still work for us.
Here come the Aristocrats.
Well, we can’t know, of course, but I’d imagine that the Secret Service agents would have taken him to the Command and Control bunker even if they had to knock him the hell out. Your scenario meets the Bush Cowboy Hubris bar just fine, but I dunno that he would have been that bold.
Just read some of the Wiki on Flight 93; whoosh. Almost impossible to imagine the passengers holding a vote on whether or not to try to stop the hijackers.
I saw recently that there’s a new movie about Twin Towers as an inside job. That level of evil’s hard for me to accept. Yeah, yeah; it pales in comparison…
I will say that I’d always figured they had Bin Laden on ice, and would get him outta the can when they needed him. Freda saw it this way; called it ‘Acme Out of a Hat‘.
There are opinions galore out and about, but at least the idea that it was anti-American, anti-Western abhorrence is getting some consideration. Many writers claim that it isn’t prevalent in Libya, and that the candidates for the election *weren’t* hand-picked by the US, but some of the signs looked like that to me.
This author spotlights our ‘dangerous double standards on Islamic extremism’, as we said above.
This bit from the piece may tickle Jon73:
“When demonstrators in Cairo and Sanaa succeeded in gaining entry into their respective U.S. embassies, in each case they replaced the U.S. flag with a black pennant bearing in white the Muslim profession of faith: “There is no God but God, and Muhammad is the Prophet of God.” The banners, which U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland downplayed disingenuously as a “plain, black flag,” should by now be familiar enough to administration officials. It is the same one adopted by other Salafi extremists, including those belonging to al Qaeda and its regional affiliates, from Mali to Yemen. Not coincidentally, it has made an appearance in each of the mass protests witnessed thus far — in Benghazi, in Tunis, in Khartoum, and even in Doha.”
That’s my gurl.
But the overarching them of the piece is that so many of the temporary alliances of convenience always come back to haunt us. How many times did you yell at the teevee when asshats were wondering how the intelligence services knew that Saddam had WMD (which he apparently did dispose of)? “CUZ WE GAVE EM TO EM TO FIGHT IRAN!” But…no one would mention that fact.
Arm and train the Taliban to fight the Russians? Why not?
Send CNN’s guy some love. Positive reinforcement and all that. (counteract the “a-hole” insult)
“…with practice and better technology, we’ve really cut down the turnaround time between arming Islamists and them killing Americans on 9/11.”
So true.
Recommended – thanks wendydavis! To my mind, the US Administration was very eager to erase the kind of progressive replacement of leadership represented by Egypt, whose people wanted to have their revolution their way and did so without destroying neighborhoods and communities in the process. Not to say it happened completely peacefully, but the comparison left Egypt intact as a nation, whereas the US policies elsewhere are hard to fix once implemented, and should have been indefensible after the hard lessons of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Nice idea, SharonMI. Emails only, but Anderson Cooper and H. Kurtz.
A-hole insult was to M. Hastings, but still… ;o)
Morsi’s in the news a lot right now, too, as you’ve likely seen. First, getting whacked by OBomba for not defending the American embassy well enough form protestors, leading to his comment that ‘the US and Egypt are not allies, not enemies’ yech, then cancelling his pre-UN meeting with Morsi.
But the headlines all indicate that the West believes he blasted onto the world stage, and some…aren’t all that happy about his attitude. Kinda sad he went to Clinton’s Global Initiative affair, but he apparently made ‘demands’, didn’t hold out a Begging Bowl.
Said some bold things at the UN General Assembly, too. First trip will be to China; ah…realpolitik.
No harm I hope in sometimes commenting here facetiously (a word with all the vowels in their alphabetical sequence). ;o)
Of course the president was reading My Pet Goat in real time. It was “hard work”, and he showed that he was “working hard” (no ™ or ® — the federal gov’t can’t register IP). An impressive guy, when you realize he served two terms even though he lost both elections.
I’ve nothing to say about what might have happened cuz threads at firedoglake about that get the bum’s rush.
Sometimes I don’t read Fassetious as goodly as I kood.
(kewl as hell on the vowels in order; yippe ki ki, I love that!)
Yeah those diaries do, I guess. Washingtonsblog does diaries about it; I read some of it, but it does weaken my spirit to consider for long.
Are the trademark and copyright thingies produced with keystrokes? I’ve tried the protocols on mine, and failed to produce them. ;o)
Thankee fer ASCII. ;o) Nice to know they show up as such on your browser.
I use a Mac that includes a clickable or copy/paste character viewer for zillions of alphabets and thingies. There’s also a keystroke combo, but I’ve never used it except when I’ve worked on a Windows PC
Windows used to have and maybe still has an application called Character Map, which lists the keystroke combinations to produce the character. I imagine recent Windows lets you double-click or c/p the character.
Hunt for Character Map or Keyboard Thingies.
Trademark, Copyright, Registered symbols on Mac
Other symbols
Thanks, HiDef and Dakine. Yeppers, it was that very program that dinnae work for me. Possibly *nothing* works in this crap Vista (may Bill Gates’ hair fall out immediately).
A possible workaround for those characters/symbols/dingbats you simply can’t live without: Whenever you see them, copy them to your clipboard, then paste them where you can access them again.
Try it now and post some here as a proof of concept (or a refutation) ;o).
I think you want html codes
trademark is & trade ; without the spaces
copyright is & copy ; without the spaces
For instance
Democrats ™
Republicans ©
wendydavis: “Arm and train the Taliban to fight the Russians? Why not?”
To paraphrase an old BGK album title, what could possibly go wrogn?! I remember posting a lot on Yahoo’s message boards back when Iraq was the hot topic, and whenever someone pointed out how strange it seemed that the U.S. was suddenly concerned about Saddam Hussein’s human rights abuses since we’d turned a blind eye to them in the past, inevitably there would be twenty or thirty responses of this type: “That wuz when he wuz are ally. Now he iz not are ally.” And to see how little the American public has learned in the decade since that disaster unfolded…it staggers the mind.
Er…uh…did I understand that john in sacramento (tech almost idiot here…) ;o) But thanks.
My conclusion, too often, Jon73, is that there are things the American public simply refuses to know. If jingoism dictates that we are Exceptional, moral, the ‘Shining City, yada yada’…the discomfort caused by holding some measure of the reality at the same time is just too uncomfortable, and measures must be sought to decrease the discomfort (i.e., rationalizations up the ass…fer instance)
Yes. It does stagger the mind. But as Radar O’Reilly said to Col. Potter: ‘I try not to understand it, sir; it just slows down the work’.
I get there some days. ;o)
wd–
Thanks for this excellent diary. I really don’t believe a word that comes out of this Administration regarding any of “the wars” that we’re engaged in (or the aftermath).
I probably like Anderson Cooper better than most on CNN. He did some pretty decent reporting during “Katrina.” Hat tip to CNN.
Recommended.
Blue
Welcome, Blue. I don’t have these stations, so I’m a bit at sea, but the youtubes made it seem like he likes to laugh; that’s a benefit. ;o)
Agreed. Ah, well…all we can do is keep hoping, climbing and fighting.
Thank you, as always, for enlarging my perspective on world affairs, wendydavis, and also for very helpful links. I was thinking we would probably enjoy having both Morsi and Ahmedinejab commenting on these diaries as each have emerged distinctly, whatever their real power is, representing Near Eastern countries that have managed to maintain some stability for their citizens, with chaos on their doorsteps. We could learn a lot from them, I think.