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(This is by way of a PSA for those who care…) ‘Debate’; ha! Hope Amy asks them other questions, ya know, some with some actual relevance.
From Amy’s website:
“As President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney square off in their first debate tonight, Democracy Now! will broadcast live from Denver with a special expanded presidential debate from 8:30 to 11:30 p.m. ET. We will air the Obama/Romney debate, pausing after questions to include equal time responses from two presidential contenders who were shut out of the official debate: Jill Stein of the Green Party and Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party.
Stream our special 3-hour show on the Democracy Now! livestream or tune in on television on Link TV (DISH Network Channel 9410 or DirecTV Channel 375) or on Free Speech TV (DISH Network Channel 9415 or DirecTV Channel 348).”
She has up interviews with Stein and Anderson on the page.
In addition, from October2011.org:
“To bring the people’s voices to the forefront, Occupy the Debates worked with Occupy Denver and other local advocacy groups to canvas the community and determine their top concerns. This past weekend, public events were held in Denver to bring people together to discuss these top issues, which were corporate influence over politics, education and student debt, the environment and climate change and health care.
“We found that the discussion in the community is very different from what is being said in the campaigns,” said Kevin Zeese, also co-director of It’s Our Economy, “People at the Occupy the Debates events developed solutions to key problems facing the country. It was evident to everyone in the room that none of these solutions will be discussed by either Obama or Romney. The duopoly politicians are out of touch with the people.”
On the night of the first debate, Occupy the Debates will bring together a diverse group of people who are in touch with what is happening in the communities and who have perspectives different from what will be said in the debate and among the commentators on corporate TV.
This alternative debate coverage program will be live-streamed on UStream and Global Revolution. It will begin at 8:30 pm eastern with pre-debate commentary and will be moderated by Lisa Simeone. During the debate, the panelists will comment on what is said and will respond to comments and questions from the audience through social media such as twitter and online chat. After the debate, the panelists will break down what was said and how that compares to the candidates’ records and will explore what was omitted.
Occupy the Debates is partnering with Its Our Economy and U Stream TV for this dialogue. U Stream TV has 57 million unique hits each month and 1.4 million twitter followers. The debate will appear on the U Stream channel: Economic Democracy Media, Its Our Economy.US.”
Again, Occupy Denver’s ‘Stop the Empire’ treatise is here. Zeese’s ‘It’s Our Economy’ is here.
OWS and Global Noise! is here. ;o)
From OccupyTheDebates.org:
Mods: I didn’t use the quotie thingie; don’t have time to recolor all the hyperlinks.
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And…if you’d rather watch the night sky, instead, go here. Diagrams of the October constellations are there. If you can see Sagittarius, the western end is (visually) bumping into the Milky Way, and you’re looking into the center of our Galaxy.
You’ll need to go looking before the big ol’ moon comes up, though. If you try to see the Pleiades near the moon, use averted vision. As in: for some us, the only way we can see it is to look just away from it.
In Mexico and among the Chreokee, it’s called ‘the Six Pigs in Heaven’; here, ‘the Seven Sisters’.
TY for this information, Wendy! Perhaps we shall have something a little more entertaining than a ridiculous drinking game to “occupy” our attention…
It’s great that Democracy Now! is doing this, after prompting from MyFDL…
I wonder if it will be softball questions; or gun control, war, Marijuana.
The duopoly candidates cooperated with each other to craft a huge contract about what kinds of questions can be asked. But, theoretically, on the air, if the interviewer actually had any scruples, he could then in front of everybody ask the tough question:
It’s like when you’re told to make a speech for five minutes: You know that if you’re the one speaking on stage, then you can decide how long the speech will be: Lehrer can ask tough questions if he decides to: He can even ask them why they won’t debate 3rd Parties or anyone on the Left.
Kevin has a thread up for all you watching the Democracy Now version
Thank you, Eliott. I didn’t have a clue how to embed a Livestream.
Thanks for this, wendy! Neither of the ‘public’ radio stations I can get have had a peep about this, so they won’t be extending coverage I guess. But commondreams.org has a debate link in their news section and they will also have the extended debate running there. Today’s democracynow has a very good segment on how the debates came to the format they currently have as well.
Recommended. (Don’t forget the time difference – just sayin’ as I usually do.)
Dr. Stein and Mr. Anderson aren’t on the North Carolina ballot, Mr Johnson of the Libertarian Party is on it, along with Mr. Obama and Mr. Romney and all their vice-presidential mates. No one else.
My absentee ballot, which I formally requested, arrived today. It’s not as easy as I’d hoped. Have to have a witness of age (among other restrictions, like for entering a raffle contest) be present while I fill out the blank ballot, who has to sign to that effect.
But it’s an optical scan/machine scored thing, so I’m back where I started from. ;o(
Just a drive-by for now, as I’m pressed for time.
But I wanted y’all to know that Amy Goodman will be in Mancos, CO (aka: bumf**k, CO) population 800, on Monday night. Mr. wendydavis will attend the event, which will be held at the (seriously ugly) renovated Opera House, and is a benefit for a local public radio station. Purdy cool altogether. ;o)
You’re not going to attend, wendy…? I’d be leaping at the chance to meet Amy *swoon*…! ;-)
thanks wendydavis.
my wife and I were lucky enough to hear/see amy here in wpg mb canada.
Without embarrassing myself again on the boards: I’m unable to attend. Missed Bruce Cockburn twice, and the pre-$$$ version of Michael Franti. Twice. Sucks, but then… so it goes.
Obama’s cheating in the Debate:
Lehrer tried to stop him when his time was up, and he wouldn’t stop talking: He must have gone way over his allotted two minutes for the answer. That must be in his contract.
And now Romney’s going over on time and refusing to stop too. So, this playing fast and loose with the Debate Rules will stymie DN!’s attempt to keep up.
*heh* And here I thought Mancos was bumf*ck egypt…! ‘Course, I shouldn’t say much since I do Occupy the most isolated Rock on the Planet…! ;-)
Thank you for posting this, wendydavis. Posalutely recommended to the highest degree!
I need to go look up a transcript now.
I haven’t tried to search out the answer, but does anyone know why Gary Johnson didn’t participate?
Amy Goodman the previous day announced that Gary Johnson had a prior commitment. The day of the Debate, she said he declined to join,
Thanks.
It’s good to know we wasn’t shut out. A novel concept in the “land of the free and the home of the brave”, sad to say.
You probably know that Johnson filed suit to be allowed into the debates, but the grounds for the filing were interesting, imo.
“The suit argues that since the president and vice president are paid a salary, the pursuit of the White House can be defined as commerce and thus be regulated by the Sherman Antitrust Act.
“In agreeing to these rules to exclude the plaintiff from participating in the debates, the defendants are conspiring and contracting to restrain the plaintiffs from participating in the electoral process,” it reads.”
Haven’t finished reading it yet, but Matt Stoller’s analysis has some these paragraphs early on that fair’ made me crow with laughter:
“As for Romney, he went to the left. Romney, just by not appearing to a creepy out of touch Mr. Burns, punctured Obama’s bubble. But he also did something that an operative friend reminded me of. He appeared just like George W. Bush in the 2000 debates, where Bush appeared more moderate and left-wing. Gore tried the math attack on Bush’s plan to privatize Social Security (Bush double counted contributions), and Bush countered with the infamous line about “fuzzy math”. This time, Romney did the same thing, he just said that Obama’s claims about his own plan weren’t true. They were true. Romney continued to lie about his plans. He said he wouldn’t cut taxes for the wealthy, slash education spending, cut health care, Social Security, or Medicare for current seniors. He went after Obama for cutting social programs. Romney, in essence, debated like a liberal Massachusetts Republican. Nothing he said was true, in all likelihood. But Romney does believe that Obama’s stewardship of the economy is terrible, and he was able to sell that quite effectively.
The reason Obama did poorly is simple. He is bad at governing America. He hasn’t solved the foreclosure crisis, the jobs crisis, the climate crisis, the energy crisis, the financial crisis, the debt crisis, the health care crisis, or really, anything. He can’t point to very much that Americans broadly like, except killing Bin Laden and the auto bailout. His second term agenda is to cut Social Security, Medicare, frack, cut corporate taxes, bust more teachers unions and pass more neoliberal trade agreements. He is proud of this record. So are his people. But he knows he can’t run on it because it’s unpopular, so instead, he presented himself as a nice likeable guy.”
Kinda like he and Axelrod believe that the key question is: Who wouldja rather have a beer with? (‘Id kill for Michelle’s arms!’) ;o)
It doesn’t look like a rush transcript of Rocky’s and Jill’s remarks is up at DN yet. The livestream is still up.
I didn’t watch any of it, but since Glen Ford was on the Occupy the Debates people’s panel, I ll look into that a bit, too.
you sure have some unique turns of phrase, great style.
crows do laugh, specially at us humans.
I really like it here, one hundred thousand lakes, etc.
It looks gorgeous, mafr. Not all the photos here are Winnipeg, but there’s one with a mama moose and her twin calves. ;o)
I wonder how many of the land-locked pine for water, even unconsciously, given that we seem to be made of stardust…and water?
Our bathroom is relentlessly dedicated to The Sea; you can fair’ smell the kelp while you soak in the antique tub. A carved humpback and calf are suspended from the ceiling, and a whoooh of exhaled breath causes them to undulate slowly in the…air that poses as water for those moments.
Meaning: I envy you your water. Born and bred on Lake Erie, then lived on a smaller lake later. Part fish then; now between the desert and the mountains.
;o)
You likely know that they not only laugh at us, but yell at us, too, *and* teach each other through vocalizations which human faces have done them wrong. They use tools; altogether remarkable birds. I love watching them strut around with their hands behind their backs like little Disraelis, grumbling and pontificating…
Magpies, also corvids, have enough different languages that it amazes me. One they use when they think hu-mons aren’t around to eavesdrop, and it really does sound like speech. Wish I could understand them.
Here is a transcript of the debate with Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson included. http://www.democracynow.org/seo/2012/10/4/expanding_the_debate_exclusive_third_party
Ha! Thank you, goNPA; I just said thank you over yonder, and said I’d bring the link here in case… ;o)